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To: captain11
"[Base 4, aka quaternary] is an order of magnitude of greater complexity than Binary math (something for which we don't see forming except with Intelligent Intervention). Not really. The inherent mathematical complexity is largely the same, in any base. Humans use base 10 as a notational convenience, no doubt influenced by the specifics of anatomy. Lacking pinkies, we would likely count in octal. While not mathematically more complex, base 4 does have the advantage that it requires only half the digits as binary (e.g. 255 decimal == 11111111 binary == 3333 quaternary)."

While I'm sure that you mean well, Base 4 IS literally an order of magnitude greater in complexity than Base 2.

0 , 1 vs 0, 1, 2, 3

In Binary you'd represent Base 2 as 10, while Base 4 would be 100.

100 is a single order of magnitude larger than 10, FYI...

But no matter. My point is that NEITHER Base 2 nor Base 4 software programs have ever been shown to have been formed by natural, unintelligent processes.

On the other hand, BOTH Base 2 as well as Base 4 software programs have been shown to have been formed EXCLUSIVELY by intelligent intervention (e.g. Man in the case of computer software).

138 posted on 02/15/2003 10:09:38 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
My point is that NEITHER Base 2 nor Base 4 software programs have ever been shown to have been formed by natural, unintelligent processes.

How can anything be formed by an unintelligent process? Didn't Creator create everything?

142 posted on 02/15/2003 10:27:55 PM PST by Lev
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To: Southack
While I'm sure that you mean well, Base 4 IS literally an order of magnitude greater in complexity than Base 2.

Make that statement to a mathematician and best case, you'll get a puzzled look and a request to define complexity. Apparently you define it according to the number of values per digit.

In Binary you'd represent Base 2 as 10, while Base 4 would be 100.

You're confusing values represented in a base with the base itself. Stated precisely, this much is true:

100 is a single order of magnitude larger than 10, FYI...

Yes, it is. In any base, FYI.

149 posted on 02/15/2003 11:12:21 PM PST by captain11
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To: Southack
In Binary you'd represent Base 2 as 10, while Base 4 would be 100.
100 is a single order of magnitude larger than 10, FYI...

Sigh. "An order of magnitude" commonly refers to a ratio of ten, not two (unless you're talking about brightness of stars, where they use a ratio of six--don't ask me why.) 10010 is an order of magnitude larger than 1010, but 1002 is .3 orders of magnitude larger than 102, because 4/2 = 2, and log102 is about 0.30103. (When dealing with different number bases, the convention is to write numbers with the base, in base ten, as a subscript.)

273 posted on 02/16/2003 2:46:05 PM PST by jejones
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