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Oh, so you're fettering it to the subjectivist error of undemonstrable inclusivity? You Beg the Question it is an error, you Beg the Question of existence of that which has no demonstrable existence.

I'll assume you are able to reflect, infer, maybe even intuit.

This breakdown in reasoning you termed, the exclusivist error of objectivism because to remain objective means that you have to admit there is no such evidence.>/i>

Even overwhelming evidence can be explained away.

One thing that I have had pounded into my head here is that logic and reason take a back seat whenever it is a choice between them and belief and faith.

Isn't it interesting that at the apparent heights of 'evolution' there exist beings whose very being demands this? I empathize with you. But here again, it is a matter of which subjective premises one wants to build his objective house upon.

Religion has fought every scientific advance, every step along the way.

Certainly Sir Isaac Newton and a host of many witnesses testify against this. But the religion of objectivism does deny advances, indeed, including the advance of knowing the limits of self.

Then you go off about altruism, complain about Marx, then swerve into seeming to say that the Christians are against reasonablly restrained capitalism, when it was the People of the Word who have upheld capitalism from before the time of Abraham.

Then you create a straw man regarding evolution vs. creation and skewer it.

Then you say something interesting to me:

And to go back to Boop's Dream. Even if true, it would have no practical effect. Couldn't build a house with it, couldn't build a fire.

The stuff of betty boop's dream is the only rock upon which a lasting house may be built. As for the fire, it has always existed.

Then you set up another straw man, but show your intent in trying to prop up reason against God. "Come now, let us reason together," says the LORD. "Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool. If you are willing and obedient, you will eat the best from the land; 20 but if you resist and rebel, you will be devoured....

Have you read anything by an apologist?

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Since your post contains only irrationalities there is no point in answering. That someone can say something doesn't make it fact is a point that clearly escapes creationists.

So the point in posting here is to answer this question:

Have you read anything by an apologist?

I have literally hundreds of hours listening to the greatest modern apologist, Dr. Walter Martin. He was also a superb logician.

At least he was honest enough to make the distinction between science and faith, and made no bones about it. I respect him for that. Rather than trying to prove the unprovable, as contemporary creationists do.

It was from him that I learned, if creationism can be proven, it destroys the concept of 'faith' upon which the religion is built. This is why you will always be doomed to fail, or will fail if you succeed.

I have no time for fools.