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Media Bias Stifles Creationists' Scientific Findings, Perspective
AgapePress ^ | February 11, 2003 | Jim Brown

Posted on 02/14/2003 5:41:19 PM PST by Remedy

The president of a Christian apologetics ministry says there is a bias within the mainstream media to present anything that seems to support evolution or undermines the Bible.

When evolutionists claimed they found a meteorite from Mars with life in it, the report received front-page headlines around the world -- and even then-President Clinton got involved. Yet when even secular scientists agreed that there was no evidence of life in that rock, the story received little attention from the press.

Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, says that was not an isolated case of bias. He explains that the secular media -- which he describes as atheistic and anti-Christian -- publishes most anything it can that appears to indoctrinate people and "hits against the Bible."

"It's very hard for us to get anything in there because coming from a biblical, creationist position and worrying about biblical morality [and believing] that the Bible's true, the secular world by and large doesn't want to hear it -- and secular media certainly don't want people to hear it," he says.

Ham says II Peter 3 tells us that men are willingly ignorant, deliberately reject, or choose to disbelieve. Certainly, Ham says, that is being exhibited in the media. And according to Ham, that even extends to scientific journals.

He explains that his ministry, which defends the biblical account of creation, has had to produce its own scientific journals because of censorship by evolutionists. He says it is nearly impossible to have creation research papers published in magazines like Nature or Science.

"They say [our articles] are not scientific [because] they have the creationist philosophy," Ham says. "It doesn't matter how scientific our scientists are, if they come from a creationist perspective, they won't publish them.

"And then they turn around and tell the public [it] can't trust creationists because they don't publish reputable papers in scientific journals," he says. "In fact, they won't let us publish the papers."

Ham says when this occurs, he is often reminded of the passage in scripture which says: "The heart of man is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked."


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To: bondserv
Are you attempting to suggest that the Grand Canyon was formed by a similar process? Because, I would expect that evidence of such would be clearly present in the geologic record. At the very least, one would require a volcano in some proximity to the Grand Canyon....

Have you considered that all this evidence manages to establish is that the process of water erosion in Washington State functions in a similar fashion to that same process in Arizona..
21 posted on 02/14/2003 7:14:23 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: bondserv
resembles the Grand Canyon

When you sa it "resembles" I assume it means it contains layers that will show they formed over millions of years, based on the age of the layers. Or do you mean "resembles" as in morons can't see any difference?

22 posted on 02/14/2003 7:15:10 PM PST by js1138
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To: bondserv
Hmmmm... My last comment may appear ambiguous, so allow me to clarify. The first process I allude to is rapid canyon formation by a torrent of water released subsequent the breach of an earthen dam created by volcanic activity. The second process I refer to is the creation of geographic features via water erosion - under whatever circumstances.
23 posted on 02/14/2003 7:27:37 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Remedy
When evolutionists claimed they found a meteorite from Mars with life in it, the report received front-page headlines around the world

evolutionists?

What could possibly be a link between Martian microbes and evolution? And who said the discoverers were evolutionists anyway? Maybe they were creationists.

24 posted on 02/14/2003 7:34:29 PM PST by RightWhale
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To: John H K; APBaer; AntiGuv; William Creel; Ichneumon; LibKill
Yo dudes, Back off, take a chill pill, pour a little sweet tea and drop those heart rates back to triple digits. -sharkdiver

Nature and Science have a bias like the major media has a bias:

How Does the World View of the Scientist & the Clinician Influence Their Work?

Does the world view of the scientist influence his work as an investigator conducting research and as a clinician treating patients? Many scholars in the history of science would answer that question with a resounding "Yes." Some, like Thomas Kuhn in his widely quoted "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions," have argued that the scientific process is less than an objective critical empirical investigation of the facts. They claim the work of scientists is greatly influenced by their culture, by social and psychological environment, by what Kuhn calls the "paradigm"--that is to say, the preferred or prevailing theories, methods and studies of that particular discipline, and above all by their world view--their specific beliefs about "the order of nature." Kuhn writes that two scientists with different views of the "order of nature" . . . see different things when they look from the same point in the same direction . . . they see different things and they see them in different relations to each other." And we might add that they tend to see and to accept those data that conform to or make sense in light of their world view. So evidence exists that the world view of scientists and the presuppositions that view implies may influence not only the problems scientists choose to investigate but also what they actually observe and fail to observe.

25 posted on 02/14/2003 7:43:35 PM PST by Remedy
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To: bondserv
Today there is a canyon there that is many hundreds of feet deep. It remarkably resembles the Grand Canyon (Layers of sedimentary mud of a variety of rock types appearing to be millions or billions of years old).

I suppose a sliced layer cake resembles the Grand Canyon too. Of course, in the strat of the earth we also find a progression of life forms in the rock strata -- which we don't find in newly formed mud layers or in our layer cakes. But I suppose that is a mere trifle.

26 posted on 02/14/2003 7:45:36 PM PST by jlogajan
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To: Remedy
Yo dudes, Back off, take a chill pill, pour a little sweet tea and drop those heart rates back to triple digits.

I don't get agitated or unsettled in the slightest over creationist nonsense. Sardonic bemusement is my reaction. If I bother to express any thoughts on the matter, it's because I have nothing else whatsoever to occupy my time for the moment.

In any event, thanks for that essay, which actually seems relevant to a research project I'm currently working on.

27 posted on 02/14/2003 7:56:12 PM PST by AntiGuv (™)
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To: Remedy
>>Creationists' Scientific Findings

Hmmmm. A contradiction if ever there was one.

A History of the Warfare of Science With Theology in Christendom

28 posted on 02/14/2003 8:13:49 PM PST by LiberalBuster
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To: John H K
Is there some reason that you have aimed this blast at me? My post simply said "read later" - indicating that I wanted to come back to it and read it later when I had time. The quote you apparently attribute to me had to be someone else.
29 posted on 02/14/2003 8:43:39 PM PST by LiteKeeper
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To: AntiGuv

The Kaibab uplift is 6000 ft. = Initial Water Course.

The base of the Grand Canyon is 1800 ft. = Modern Water Course.

30 posted on 02/15/2003 1:24:22 AM PST by bondserv
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To: jlogajan
If there were a worldwide flood there would be shells from shellfish on mountains. There would be bones in the mud that settles from a flood, maybe even pools of bones found together in the same layer of rock.

It's weird how human bones have been found with dinosaur bones in the same layer of rock. But with only one presupposition that is "non-moronic" it is not allowed in reputable journals.

There would be no bones in the sediment that resulted from Mt. St. Helens. But there are petrified trees running through layers of sediment, just like at Yellowstone Park.

P.S. There was only 1/2 an inch of space dust on the moon. Check out the lunar lander pods, which were not needed because the scientist thought billions of years of space dust would be very deep. Faulty presupposition!
31 posted on 02/15/2003 1:49:57 AM PST by bondserv
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To: bondserv
This "rapid geology" is probably just found in Washington State. /sarcasim off

The scabland of eastern Washington and the Colombia River gorge were created fairly quickly by several glacial ice dams breaking and the water rushing out (in a matter of days each time). There are rows of 100+ foot tall hills out near Hanford that are actually giant "ripple" marks from the last flood. It took a LONG time for that theory to become acceptable.

32 posted on 02/15/2003 1:51:15 AM PST by geopyg
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To: bondserv
It's weird how human bones have been found with dinosaur bones in the same layer of rock.

What's really weird is that I don't think that this has ever happened.
33 posted on 02/15/2003 1:53:36 AM PST by Dimensio
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To: bondserv
Oh no! The moon dust argument!
Now we evilooshunists really need to duck and cover.
And we tried so hard to hide this from the public.
34 posted on 02/15/2003 2:39:31 AM PST by BMCDA (/sarcasm)
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To: Remedy
I can sympathize with the Creationists. I too have been shut out by Nature and Science. My last essay, "Leprochauns: Bred Out Of Existence?" was once again passed over. Damn elitists and their "facts."
35 posted on 02/15/2003 2:40:29 AM PST by LanaTurnerOverdrive
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To: Dimensio
Sheesh! Where do they always get all this nonsense?
36 posted on 02/15/2003 2:41:24 AM PST by BMCDA
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To: RightWhale
What could possibly be a link between Martian microbes and evolution?

There is virtually no mention of the planets in the bible. Maybe once in the OT, in a passage against astrologers, and not at all in the NT. The typical phrase is "sun, moon, and stars," as if there were no distinction between a star and a planet. Clearly, Ken Ham could have no scriptural information about life on Mars, and because he's a deranged fool, he surely he has no scientific information -- about that or anything else. His gripe is that the media don't call him all the time for his views on everything. As if he had anything to say.

37 posted on 02/15/2003 4:02:35 AM PST by PatrickHenry (Felix, qui potuit rerum cognoscere causas)
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To: bondserv

38 posted on 02/15/2003 6:56:32 AM PST by jlogajan
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive
You are missing more than just links.
39 posted on 02/15/2003 7:10:54 AM PST by Remedy
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To: LanaTurnerOverdrive; PatrickHenry
I can sympathize with the Creationists. I too have been shut out by Nature and Science. My last essay, "Leprochauns: Bred Out Of Existence?" was once again passed over. Damn elitists and their "facts."

Good one.

40 posted on 02/15/2003 7:43:13 AM PST by balrog666 (When in doubt, tell the truth. - Mark Twain)
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