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1 posted on 02/13/2003 11:08:05 AM PST by BlackJack
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To: BlackJack
Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the Constitution SPECIFICALLY prohibit banks and states from creating their own currencies ??
4 posted on 02/13/2003 11:40:36 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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This was what I was looking for

Article I
Section 10.
No state shall enter into any treaty, alliance, or confederation; grant letters of marque and reprisal; coin money; emit bills of credit; make anything but gold and silver coin a tender in payment of debts ; pass any bill of attainder, ex post facto law, or law impairing the obligation of contracts, or grant any title of nobility.

6 posted on 02/13/2003 11:47:05 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Chance favors the prepared mind.)
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I agree with the poster who said that this seems unconstitutional. Also (perhaps more importantly) these "silver dollars" seem to be every bit as valuable as US dollars -- but are sometimes worth 10% more. Uh, basic economics? Free money out of nowhere? 10% return without really making a bonified investment? Paging, Mr. Ponzi.
8 posted on 02/13/2003 11:51:07 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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Norfed.org bump !
43 posted on 02/13/2003 4:04:28 PM PST by Ben Bolt
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54 posted on 02/13/2003 6:21:01 PM PST by diotima (****DO NOT TAUNT HAPPY FUN BALL****)
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Update: These have been declared illegal.
NORFED’s "Liberty Dollars" The National Organization for the Repeal of the Federal Reserve Act and the Internal Revenue Code (NORFED) is producing and marketing gold and silver medallions that NORFED calls "Liberty Dollars." The United States Mint and the United States Department of Justice have received inquiries regarding the legality of these so-called "Liberty Dollar" medallions. The United States Mint urges consumers who are considering the purchase or use of these items to be aware that they are not genuine United States Mint bullion coins and they are not legal tender. These medallions are privately produced products and are not backed by, nor affiliated in any way with, the United States Government. Moreover, prosecutors with the Department of Justice have determined that the use of these gold and silver NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions as circulating money is a Federal crime.

Consumers may find advertisements for these medallions confusing and should take note of several issues related to them.

First, the advertisements refer to the product as "real money" and "currency." These medallions might look like real money because they—

- Bear the inscriptions, "Liberty," "Dollars," "Trust in God" (similar to "In God We Trust"), and "USA" (similar to "United States of America"), and an inscription purporting to denote the year of production; and

- Depict images that are similar to United States coins, such as the torch on the reverses of the current dime coin, 1986 Statute of Liberty commemorative silver dollar and 1993 Bill of Rights commemorative half-dollar, and the Liberty Head designs on the obverses of United States gold coins from the mid-1800s to the early 1900s.

However, despite their misleading appearance, NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions are not genuine United States Mint coins and they are not legal tender.

Second, the advertisements confusingly refer to NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions as "legal" and "constitutional." However, under the Constitution ( Article I, section 8, clause 5 ), Congress has the exclusive power to coin money of the United States and to regulate its value. By statute ( 31 U.S.C. § 5112(a) ), Congress specifies the coins that the Secretary of the Treasury is authorized to mint and issue and requires the Secretary to carry out these duties at the United States Mint (31 U.S.C. § 5131). Accordingly, the United States Mint is the only entity in the United States with the lawful authority to mint and issue legal tender United States coins.

Under 18 U.S.C. § 486, it is a Federal crime to utter or pass, or attempt to utter or pass, any coins of gold or silver intended for use as current money except as authorized by law. According to the NORFED website, "Liberty merchants" are encouraged to accept NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions and offer them as change in sales transactions of merchandise or services. Further, NORFED tells "Liberty associates" that they can earn money by obtaining NORFED "Liberty Dollar" medallions at a discount and then can "spend [them] into circulation." Therefore, NORFED’s "Liberty Dollar" medallions are specifically intended to be used as current money in order to limit reliance on, and to compete with the circulating coinage of the United States. Consequently, prosecutors with the United States Department of Justice have concluded that the use of NORFED’s "Liberty Dollar" medallions violates 18 U.S.C. § 486.


75 posted on 02/26/2007 6:10:48 PM PST by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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