CANADIAN court agrees that BIBLE is HATE LITERATURE

CWNews.com ^ | 2-11-2003 | staff

[Notwithstanding]

In a ruling given virtually no media coverage, the Court of Queen's Bench in Saskatchewan, ruled that a man who placed references to Bible verses on homosexuality into a newspaper ad was guilty of inciting hatred. The December 11, 2002 decision was in response to an appeal of a 2001 Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission (HRC) ruling which ordered both the Saskatoon StarPhoenix newspaper and Hugh Owens of Regina to pay CAN$1,500 to three homosexual activists for publishing an ad in the Saskatoon newspaper quoting Bible verses regarding homosexuality.

The purpose of the ad was to indicate that the Bible says no to homosexual behavior. The advertisement displayed references to four Bible passages: Romans 1, Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, and 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, on the left side. An equal sign (=) was situated in the middle, with a symbol on the right side. The symbol was comprised of two males holding hands with the universal symbol of a red circle with a diagonal bar superimposed over top.

Justice J. Barclay rejected the appeal ruling: "In my view, the Board was correct in concluding that the advertisement can objectively be seen as exposing homosexuals to hatred or ridicule. When the use of the circle and slash is combined with the passages of the Bible, it exposes homosexuals to detestation, vilification and disgrace. In other words, the Biblical passage which suggests that if a man lies with a man they must be put to death exposes homosexuals to hatred."

Janet Epp Buckingham, Legal Counsel for the Evangelical Fellowship of Canada, told LifeSite: "The ruling that a verse from the Bible can be considered to expose homosexuals to hatred shows the danger for Scripture if Bill C-250 passes." Bill C-250, proposed by homosexual activist MP Svend Robinson, would see "sexual orientation" added to hate crime law as a prohibited ground of discrimination.

[yendu bwam]

Is it for us to judge and condemn? Or should we forgive?

Christians should forgive any repentant sinner. That has nothing to do with Canada's government's taking people's freedoms away. Tyranny is a form of evil and should be fought.

[Luis Gonzalez]

It's funny.

On threads where I try to point out that there is a whole lot of violence in The Bible to those people that are busy pointing out all the violence in the Koran, people claim that Christians believe in the New Testament, and that the Old Testament is about Judaism, not Christianity.

When it comes to homosexuality however, every Christian I know quotes the Old Testament extensively.

[PaxMacian]

This is simply a Godless and wicked judge.
Psalm 50
16 But to the wicked, God says:
"What right have you to recite my laws
or take my covenant on your lips?
17 You hate my instruction
and cast my words behind you.

[Luis Gonzalez]

It isn't about taking people's freedoms away, it's about instigating violence.

And in this judge's mind, the message behind this minister's interpretation of the Bible was doing just that.

The message belongs in the pulpit, once he took his message to the secular world, he became subject to secular laws.

"...to Caesar what belongs to Caesar and to God what belongs to God."

[SkyRat]

I have a question I would like to ask you, cause I'm not very familiar with the bible.

Is it correct that the verses in Leviticus not only condem homosexuality but also eating pork and a lot of other stuff most todays christians ignore?

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Christians should forgive any repentant sinner."

Matthew 6:14-15

14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you."
15 "But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses."

[Teacher317]

Court grants blacks special sentencing (Canada)

Thank you, Lord, for making me an American, and not a Canadian.

[yendu bwam]

You're right, L. Gonzalez, though other statements by Jesus mention repentance as well. Also, my statement is still true (if you think about it)! Still, this has nothing to do with a government slipping into tyranny to deny people the fundamental right to express themselves and what they believe. That right is being denied in Canada (along with other fundamental rights as well). If I were Canadian, I would fight such tyranny.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Can you yell "fire" in a crowded theatre?

[PaxMacian]

Yes, eating pork was once very dangerous, in fact, possibly fatal. If it were still so it would not be legal to eat today. There are many definitions of proscribed abominations in Leviticus. These are choices on lifes journey which will lead away from the grace of God and set one on the path to Hell. Many, including laying with a man, result in death of the soul which lives in God's grace until truly repentant and reborn.

[Luis Gonzalez]

Repentance is between the sinner and God, one achieves it through Jesus Christ.

It isn't for man to judge repentance because we are not privy to what is in a person's heart.

[PaxMacian]

Foolishness
The Caesar quote refers to money!

Free speech is a God given or natural right which is never to be surrendered to Caesar.

'Natural Rights' are those rights granted by God to mankind
and which governments are erected by mankind in order to protect.

[yendu bwam]

Is it correct that the verses in Leviticus not only condem homosexuality but also eating pork and a lot of other stuff most todays christians ignore?

Yes, that is true, SkyRat. Most Christians believe that Jesus Christ established a new convenant between God and humanity in which, as God's truth was taken out to the Gentiles (non-Jews), and the nature of God was more fully revealed, it was no longer necessary to follow the ancient Jewish strictures with regard to eating and the plethora of rules for keeping the Sabbath holy, etc. However, homosexuality was revealed as an abomination to God in the Old Testament, the Old Testament revealed God's purpose for sexuality as that between a man and his wife. Jesus Christ also condemned fornication (sex outside of marriage), underscored that it was God's purpose that men and women were created for each other (and were to be made one flesh) - and even went far beyond the strictures of the Old Testament to include sins of thought. For example, not only was adultery forbiden, but looking at a woman lustfully who was not one's wife was shown to be sinful. Homosexuality is also condemned in several places in the New Testament, and the New Testament very clearly states that unrepentant homosexual acts will cause one to forego salvation. (The Koran forbids homosexual acts as well.) The Bible teaches, when taken as a whole over time, that sexuality is to be reserved for married men and women, and is to be foregone outside of marriage between a man and a woman.

[Jael]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/842372/posts?page=20#20

[yendu bwam]

Many, including laying with a man, result in death of the soul which lives in God's grace until truly repentant and reborn.

Well put, PaxMacian.

[PaxMacian]

Can you yell 'theater' in a crowded fire house?

[69ConvertibleFirebird]

Speaking out against rape is considered hateful in some countries too. Canada now takes a big step towards that club of countries!

AIDS kills. Homosexual men, in general, spread AIDS with abandon. Speaking out against killers is NOT hate speach!

[aCDNinUSA]

And thank you Lord, and the USA for letting me move to their great country where one can be free from such tyranny.

[babaloo999]

What are you talking about? Sure, there may be a few "haters" around here. People seem a little intolerant and incoherent at times.

But, I'm certain that you are fully aware of the fact that disagreement does not mean hate. That's a lib defense.
Because one considers homosexuality, abortion, etc. wrong doesn't mean they're full of hate. But you know that already. That's a lib defense.
Anything that intrudes on the 20th century libertine lifestyle is deemed hateful and intolerant.
It's a lib defense.
This is a conservative news forum, allegedly, so it's no surprise that a lot of people see some views as intolerant and hateful. Just as if we were out in the real world, eh?