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Anti-gun bill (HB197) Advancing in the GA House
Citizens for Safe Government e-amil alert ^ | 2/12/03 | CSG E-mail alert

Posted on 02/13/2003 3:58:26 AM PST by from occupied ga

Atlanta, Wednesday, February 12) -- The HB197 Stealth Triggerlock bill passed the Georgia House Judiciary Committee yesterday.

A key vote on the Self-Defense amendment to protect your right to keep guns ready for self-defense has been delayed until HB197 reaches the floor of the House. That could happen as early as Fri. morning Feb. 14.

The anti-gunners pushing HB197 panicked Monday after it looked like gun owners might pass the Self-Defense amendment in committee.

Rep. Wendell Willard (R-Dunwoody), the front man for HB197, went running to House Republican leaders to complain Rep. Warren Massey (R-Winder) was bringing too much heat on Republican members of the Judiciary Committee.

Mr. Massey withdrew from sponsoring the Self-Defense amendment yesterday. Many gun owners were disappointed. HB197 then quickly passed the committee by a vote of 18 to 1, with only Rep. Pam Stephenson (D-Lithonia) voting against it she said because the committee stripped out an exception for victims of domestic violence.

House Pro-Gun Leader Bobby Franklin (R-Marietta) will offer the Self-Defense amendment to HB197 directly from the floor when it comes before the full House.

That could happen as early as Fri. morning Feb 14.

CSG Legislative Director Bill Phillips helped manage the HB197 debate Monday in committee. He said, "Rep. Massey carried the ball for gun owners as far as he could. He forced the anti-gunners to make two big mistakes:

1. They admitted HB197 is a stealth triggerlock bill: you'll have to lock up your gun so it's not ready for self-defense or else face going to jail.

2. They showed they're scared witless of the Self-Defense amendment to HB197 because it guts their Stealth Triggerlock scheme."

The Self-Defense amendment to HB197 says "keeping or storing a firearm in such a manner that it is unlocked or otherwise ready for immediate use in self-defense shall not be considered criminal negligence."

The CSG Legislative Director added, "House Pro-Gun Leader Rep. Bobby Franklin is chomping at the bit to force a vote on the Self-Defense amendment so gun owners can know how their Reps. stand on this vital issue. Bobby couldn't do it before because he wasn't on the committee. Now the bill is out of committee, and he can take charge on the floor."

Rep. Franklin said passing the Self-Defense amendment depends on one thing: you putting pressure on your own state Rep. to vote right.

If HB197 becomes law without the Self-Defense amendment, anti-gun officials could come to your home or in your car, arrest you, and confiscate your guns if they're not locked up.

It's crucial you call the office of your state Representative(s) as soon as possible and leave a message saying vote for the Self-Defense amendment to HB197.

Meanwhile, the NRA is still on the sidelines. They're scared anti-gunners will claim they're against children. The NRA lobbyist told the House Judiciary Committee the NRA is neither for the bill nor against it. Of course anti-gunners are saying "the NRA is not opposed to HB197" which is only half the truth.

You need to act to defend your right to keep and bear arms. What happened in committee earlier this week is history. You need to call again. Contact the office of your own State Rep. as soon as possible and leave a message saying vote for the Self-Defense amendment to HB197.

ACTION ITEMS

  1. Get your state House district number by calling the Registrar of Voters or the Voter Registration office in your county.
  2. Get the name and telephone number of your state Rep. (or Reps. if you live in a multi-member district) by calling the House Information Office at 404-656-5082 or 800-282-5800. Tell them your state House district number.
  3. Make the call. If the phones are busy, keep trying.
  4. Send a copy of this e-mail to everybody you know in Georgia who owns a gun.
-- Citizens for Safe Government, Inc. P.O. Box 813764 Smyrna, GA 30081 csg@arms.org


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: antigun; banglist; guncontrol; triggerlock
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To: backhoe
>>Sure get weary of having to keep these lunkheads in line all the time!

How's that quote go? Oh, yeah:

"Eternal Vigilance is the price of liberty."
T. Jefferson
21 posted on 02/13/2003 5:04:50 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: from occupied ga
They admitted HB197 is a stealth triggerlock bill: you'll have to lock up your gun so it's not ready for self-defense or else face going to jail.

Don't panic. All you have to do when someone is killing you and your family is to say "Please wait for me to unlock my gun, go to the other room and unlock my ammo, load my gun and then shoot you." See how easy that is? </sarcasm off>

Honest question - Didn't I study something about a Second Amendment to the US Constitution or was I just dreaming?

22 posted on 02/13/2003 5:06:07 AM PST by zip
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To: FreedomPoster; backhoe
Or..

"The Tree of Liberty must sometimes be refreshed with the blood of tyrants and patriots."

23 posted on 02/13/2003 5:07:58 AM PST by Vigilantcitizen
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To: FreedomPoster
Thanks for the template. Mine just went out to Mr. Burkhalter with a reminder that I have voted for him twice in order to prevent this kind of anti-constitutional garbage.
24 posted on 02/13/2003 5:08:11 AM PST by doodad
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To: doodad
I'm pretty sure he was at Tech at the same time as me.
25 posted on 02/13/2003 5:11:20 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: from occupied ga
Give Neal a break - he's usually pretty good on 2A issues.
26 posted on 02/13/2003 5:12:17 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: zip
Surely you jest?

Yes you are dreaming! Proof, if demonrats can't see it, it does not exist.

27 posted on 02/13/2003 5:18:19 AM PST by wita
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To: FreedomPoster
Give Neal a break - he's usually pretty good on 2A issues.

Whatever he feels personally on this subject, his livelihood is dependent on the fanatically anti-gun Cox Communications organization, and they may let him rant a bit about gun control, but if he were to suggest anything as effective as the talk radio assault on the proposed TN income tax, he'd be out on his a$$ before you could say "Ann Cox Chambers loves FDR and Joe Stalin" and he knows it.

28 posted on 02/13/2003 5:19:25 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: from occupied ga
bump for Georgians to go get 'em
29 posted on 02/13/2003 5:47:52 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: BOBWADE
2nd amendment ping
30 posted on 02/13/2003 5:50:59 AM PST by zip
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To: wita
Oh yeah, I forgot. lol

I checked your profile page and have to say THANK YOU for your service to our Country. FMCDH

31 posted on 02/13/2003 5:58:23 AM PST by zip
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To: from occupied ga
If you go to the GA House website about HB197, it's simply called the "crimes against children" act (now who could argue in favor of crimes against children?), and nowhere on the published page of text is gun storage or firearms liability specifically mentioned. It's very elusive. The summary reads:

A BILL to amend Title 16 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to crimes and offenses, so as to state legislative findings; to define criminal negligence; to change the definition of cruelty to children and to provide for third degree cruelty to children; to provide for the crime of endangerment of a child under the age of 16; and for other purposes.

Hmm. Other purposes indeed. Part of the actual text reads:

Title 16 of the Official Code of Georgia Annotated, relating to crimes and offenses, is amended in Code Section 16_2_1, relating to the definition of a crime, by designating the existing Code section as subsection (a) and adding a new subsection (b) to read as follows:

"(b) Criminal negligence is an act or failure to act which demonstrates a willful disregard or wanton and reckless disregard for the safety of others who might reasonably be expected to be injured thereby."

Well there we have it, disregard for the safety of others. How else might evil legislators interpret this vague idea? Mere ownership of guns or ammo? Owning a big dog? Speeding?

32 posted on 02/13/2003 6:30:36 AM PST by Sender (-A strange game. The only winning move is not to play. -WOPR-)
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To: Sender
I put Oliver's comment from the committe meeting in red on post #20 this thread. No doubt at all what they want this for.
33 posted on 02/13/2003 6:43:45 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your enemy, and Bush is no conservative)
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To: backhoe; from occupied ga
Thanks for the ping. I've e-mailed my Rep and the guy who used to be my Rep before redistricting to alert them of my distaste.

I also e-mailed my Senator to "pre-register" since I'll be going on active duty next week and won't be able to follow it's progress.

Dear Lord, what a messed up House it is that Roy built.

34 posted on 02/13/2003 6:47:13 AM PST by LTCJ (Anybody want to pitch in and rent a wrecking ball?.)
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To: zip
Thanks, graciously accepted. I am still able to do my part, but the younger guys and gals get the nod, and the older horses get to stew in their pasture.
35 posted on 02/13/2003 7:02:52 AM PST by wita
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To: LTCJ
Yep, I just sent a mass email to my "critters" in Hot-lanta:

Gentlemen,
I sure grow tired of having to ride herd on my "representatives" who keep trying to pass such freedom-stealing laws as the above-mentioned bill. Really, enough is enough- there are plenty of laws already.

And may I mention that damn-fool bill to increase seatbelt fines from $15 to $200? I ran a wrecker service here, and can tell you more about belts than you'd care to hear- but people ought to be given the information about wrecks and then given the choice to use them or not. It should be left to the individual, not mandated by law.

Thank you-
Regards,
36 posted on 02/13/2003 7:54:34 AM PST by backhoe (I learned to shoot when I was six...)
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To: FreedomPoster; backhoe; from occupied ga
FP, thanks for the well written boilerplate. I hope that you, FOG, and BH don't mind me borrowing a bit of your text to compose my own. I thought as long as we were doing this "for the children", I'll see their tear and raise them a boo-hoo:

Subject: Please Protect Spouses of Deployed Military Personnel

Dear [HouseRep],

I am extremely concerned that a bill currently before the House could place a large number of your constituents, specifically the spouses of deployed military personnel, at increased risk of crime or, ironically, of criminal prosecution. As local military units mobilize and deploy, they leave behind families who experience increased levels of venerability and anxiety. These families should not have to worry about protecting themselves while alone in their own homes.

House Bill 197, as currently written, is a stealth trigger-lock bill that would make law-abiding citizens reluctant to maintain a self defense weapon in a ready state. The vagueness of the wording could be used to criminalize law-abiding military spouses who keep firearms for self defense. Should you have any doubt that this is the case, I urge you to consider the words of one of the Bill's co-sponsors, Mary Margaret Oliver, when referring to a proposed amendment to clarify the language. To wit: “Mr. Chairman, the Massey amendment means we won't be able to prosecute anybody for having an unlocked gun." This stealth anti-gun legislation has no place in our state.

The Self Defense Amendment would clarify this vaguely worded legislation in an appropriate way to ensure law-abiding Georgians would not potentially be criminalized by a bad law. The amendment to HB197 says "keeping or storing a firearm in such a manner that it is unlocked or otherwise ready for immediate use in self-defense shall not be considered criminal negligence." Please support the amendment to be offered on the floor by Representative Franklin.

Unfortunately, I will be unable to follow the progress of this legislation because I will be going on active duty next week. I trust that the protection of my family and rights under the State Constitution and the U.S. Bill of Rights are safe in your hands while I am away. I look forward to seeing your strong support on this.

Sincerely,

[LTCJ]

I e-mailed this out to the ten Representatives covering the areas around Ft. Stewart, Hunter AAF, and Kings Bay using the address {First Initial}{Last Name}@legis.state.ga.us which seems to be the generic e-mail address format up in the Northern Kingdom.

Oddly enough, the ones to Republicans seem to have gone through but the ones to D's bounced.

37 posted on 02/13/2003 8:49:55 AM PST by LTCJ (Now if we could bounce them instead of just their e-mail.)
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To: LTCJ
Don't mind at all; the more the merrier!

Nice work.
38 posted on 02/13/2003 9:07:37 AM PST by FreedomPoster (This space intentionally blank)
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To: error99
What do you know about this?
39 posted on 02/13/2003 9:57:58 AM PST by Hanging Chad (not to be confused with "Hanging Ten" or "Hanging Wallpaper"...)
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To: from occupied ga
GOA bttt

Come'on Georgia make those calls to the cretins.
40 posted on 02/13/2003 10:18:47 AM PST by lodwick ( Live free or die)
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