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The text of the Second Inaugural is from www.founding.com

The unusual spelling is from that site.

Happy birthday, Mr. Lincoln, and God save the United States!

Cheers,

Richard F.

[LiteKeeper]

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[My2Cents]

That's a great reflection on Lincoln's Second Inaugural. As I reflect back on Lincoln's service to the nation, and to the Constitution and principles of the founders, I'm struck that time and time again, at times of maximum peril and darkness, the Almighty always seems to elevate the right person for the moment. I believe that Lincoln was the gift of the Providence that he depended upon. I trust that Geo. W. Bush is also the gift of Providence for our place and time.

[billbears]

What? We're supposed to click on the link so you get a few hits to read public domain material from a liar and a tyrant?

One eighth of the whole population were colored slaves, not distributed generally over the Union, but localized in the Southern part of it.

Well, heck we know good and well that Mr. lincoln didn't have to worry about blacks, let alone slaves in the state of Illinois, now did he? Considering that state had passed one of the most stringent black codes in 1853 isn't it curious that abe never spoke out against it?

All knew that this interest was, somehow, the cause of the war

Well there you have it. From abe's mouth to our ears. 140 years later people are still believing that line. Interesting considering that in his first inaugural address he said something to the effect of

I have no purpose, directly or indirectly, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the States where it exists. I believe I have no lawful right to do so, and I have no inclination to do so.

Seems to me the good folks of the South weren't duped into attacking abe's tariff collecting station until a month later. It also seems that if the war was over slavery, then the good folks wouldn't have bitten the bait in April. Because right here in 1861, a liar stood before them and stated that he had no right nor concern to interfere with a state's internal affairs. Well, it must have been over something else then huh? Tell us, rdf, what was that fort there for in SC? To show the good folks of SC the pretty blue uniforms? More like to show the good folks of the South the steel hand in which Washington collected its tribute money

It may seem strange that any men should dare to ask a just God’s assistance in wringing their bread from the sweat of other men’s faces; but let us judge not that we be not judged

Wow!! If that doesn't sound like it's straight out of the Communist Manifesto, I don't know what is. Course considering the letters Mr. Marx wrote praising lincoln's tariff war and the personal letters Marx wrote to him I'd say abe and Karl were of the same stock, wouldn't you?

[4CJ]

Sir, I commend your dedication to Lincoln, even though I feel it misplaced. I do pray for our country and our troops.

Re the speech by Lincoln, one of the flaws is contained herein:

'On the occasion corresponding to this four years ago, all thoughts were anxiously directed to an impending civil-war. All dreaded it - all sought to avert it.'

That's a lie, as Lincoln refused to even meet with the peace commissioners from the Confederacy, mediated by Supreme Court Justice Campbell (and justice Nelson as well).

The commissioners had been sent to Washington to peacefully settle all property disputes and any other items but were refused. For what it's worth, the property in South Carolina including Ft. Sumter legally belonged to SC.

Freegards,

4CJ