Bin Laden Tape: Text

BBC News ^ | 3/12/03 | BBC Monitoring

[Angelus Errare]

There you have it, gents.

[Mo1]

Thanks

[TLBSHOW]

Allah is a fake like Islam! As Savage said tonight on his show there is one God! Not Allah!

[Angelus Errare]

Ping

[travelnurse]

Excerpt from story
Feb. 11, 2003
Newsday.com

***Powell said he had read a transcript of "what bin Laden -- or who we believe to be bin Laden"*** was saying on the al-Jazeera Arab satellite station Tuesday. "Once again he speaks to the people of Iraq and talks about their struggle and how he is in partnership with Iraq," Powell said.

As broadcast later, the voice purporting to be bin Laden's urged Iraqis to confront any U.S.-led invasion with camouflaged trenches and suicide bombings.

"With all the might of the enemy, they were unable to defeat us" in Afghanistan, the speaker said. "We hope that our brothers in Iraq will do the same as we did."

Al-Qaida and Iraq, the speaker indicated, are bound by a common hatred of the United States.

http://www.newsday.com/news/politic...72847.story?col

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bin Laden tape my butt!! Who do they think they are foolin'?!

[Dog Gone]

Well, much as I hate to say it, this doesn't indicate that al-Qaida is a partner of Iraq. It's more of a call to arms on behalf of Iraq.

It's not a subtle difference.

[piasa]

I would be amazed if just once, we could go an entire article using the word "allah" instead of translating it as "God." Do they have two words or do they use Allah all the time in Arabic? Is there some rule somewhere that translators can't just uses "Allah" all the time?

[piasa]

Yeah, he's said similar things before in support of Iraq. For the chillun, of course.

The phone calls from Abu Sayyaf to the Iraqi diplomat after blowing up a US soldier are more telling.

[Myrddin]

Trenches with 3 brothers each spread over one square mile. Napalm or a few passes with an AC130 should give them eternal rest.

[The Toad]

My comment on Bin Laden's message: Yawn.

He's probably upset that he hasn't been getting much press time....

[travelnurse]

alQaeda is in Iraq and Baghdad. This tape seems to have been made by "someone", as Powell suggests other than bin Laden, but ON BEHALF of bin Laden, and probably came right from the alQaeda cell in Iraq or Iran, and on behalf of Iraq, in the name of bin Laden.

[travelnurse]

allah is the arabic translation for god.

[No Truce With Kings]

"This tape seems to have been made by "someone", as Powell suggests other than bin Laden, but ON BEHALF of bin Laden, and probably came right from the alQaeda cell in Iraq or Iran, and on behalf of Iraq, in the name of bin Laden."

No doubt transcribed in the same South American cottage where Adolf Hitler has been staying since April 1945.

[swheats]

I will narrate to you part of that great battle, to show how cowardly they are on the one hand, and how effective trenches are in exhausting them on the other. We were about 300 mujahideen [Islamic militants].We dug 100 trenches that were spread in an area that does not exceed one square mile, one trench for every three brothers, so as to avoid the huge human losses resulting from the bombardment.

As with all criminals they become arrogant and tell of all their means of evading the good guys. We'll get 'em. Might take some time, but we'll get 'em.

[ffusco]

We should have asked Afghanistan for permission to perform and undergound test of a thermonuclear device of about 5 killotons at Tora Bora in November of 2000. Problem solved. Cheap, Clean and Fast, No collateral damage, fear of God instilled in our enemies around the world. World Order re-established.

[Republican Wildcat]

The phone calls from Abu Sayyaf to the Iraqi diplomat after blowing up a US soldier are more telling.

I missed that story...was that part of Powell's presentation?

[Angelus Errare]

Two different words.

"Lah" in Arabic (which, if I recall correctly, is related to the Semitic Yah, as in Yahweh) is God. Despite the Hebrew connotations it is more of a generic term

"Allah" means "the God" and is indicative of the identity of the Judeo-Christian God. I know a lot of people here disagree rather strongly with Islam, but understand Arab Christian use "Allah" when they pray as well.

[ganesha]

In some places the Qur'an refers to God as "Rahman"