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To: JameRetief; maquiladora; ecurbh; HairOfTheDog; 2Jedismom; Maigret; NewCenturions
"Orcs Are Lib'ral DemonRATS!! (and vice versa)"

"this from HoME X, Myths Transformed:
"I think it must be assumed that 'talking' is not necessarily the sign of the possession of a 'rational soul' or fea. The Orcs were beasts of humanized shape (to mock Men and Elves) deliberately perverted I converted into a more close resemblance to Men. Their 'talking' was really reeling off 'records' set in them by Melkor. Even their rebellious critical words - he knew about them. Melkor taught them speech and as they bred they inherited this; and they had just as much independence as have, say, dogs or horses of their human masters. This talking was largely echoic (cf. parrots). In The Lord of the Rings Sauron is said to have devised a language for them."
and
"Morgoth not Sauron is the source of Orc-wills. Sauron is just another (if greater) agent. Orcs can rebel against him without losing their own irremediable allegiance to evil (Morgoth)."

Some Lib'rals are Irredeemably EVIL, but Most are simply IGNORANT DOLTS in need of Re-Education, IMHO...MUD

677 posted on 02/19/2003 1:43:35 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (Git the US Outta the UN...and Git Ashcroft Outta the DOJ!!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim
The feigned simple curiosity is not very believable.

Your HO is correct, IMHO!

678 posted on 02/19/2003 1:52:33 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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To: Mudboy Slim
HA! - Wrong cut and paste! - I need to clean out my clipboard!

Should have been:

Some Lib'rals are Irredeemably EVIL, but Most are simply IGNORANT DOLTS in need of Re-Education, IMHO...MUD

Your HO is correct, IMHO!

679 posted on 02/19/2003 1:54:12 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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