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Arab leaders and "distinguished people" ask Mandela to persuade Saddam Hussein to step down
Sunday Times (South Africa) ^ | February 9, 2003 | Ranjeni Munusamy

Posted on 02/09/2003 1:40:49 AM PST by HAL9000

Mandela asked to act on Iraq

Former President Nelson Mandela has been asked by "distinguished people" to persuade Iraqi President Saddam Hussein to step down to ease the standoff with the US.

Among those who requested that Mandela talk Saddam into an "exit plan" are leaders of Arab states bordering Iraq who are worried about the effects of the imminent war. Mandela says he will travel to Baghdad to carry out the mission only if asked by the United Nations.

Mandela's spokesman, Zelda la Grange, said the former president, who is at the forefront of the anti-war lobby, "has been approached from different angles".

Mandela ruffled diplomatic feathers last week when he attacked US President George W Bush and his war supporter, British Prime Minister Tony Blair.

La Grange said Mandela had not only criticised Bush and Blair, but also Saddam for not co- operating fully with UN weapons inspectors searching for chemical and biological weapons.

"Therefore Madiba will support any request made by the UN, whether it be for Saddam Hussein to step down or whatever else they may suggest," she said.

Mandela's tirade came on the eve of President Thabo Mbeki's visit to Britain to meet Blair. SA officials said the statements "did not cause serious damage" to relations between Blair and Mbeki. But one official said that while Mandela could make statements that the government supported but was unable to voice, he had on occasion caused "diplomatic nightmares".

Mandela announced last week that apartheid foreign minister Pik Botha would travel to Baghdad to share SA's experience in destroying weapons of mass destruction. This was viewed in some circles as a parallel process to that of the government.

La Grange said Botha contacted Mandela and was advised to speak to Mbeki before getting involved. "It should not be seen as a separate effort but rather as support for the government."



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: gulfwarii; iraq; madiba; mandela; nelsonmandela; pikbotha; saddamhussein

1 posted on 02/09/2003 1:40:49 AM PST by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000
Me, I don't see anything wrong with this. If we can remove Saddam without going to war, I think that's nothing but good. It'll save lives and it'll mean that Iraq will start from a position of less damage with a new government.
2 posted on 02/09/2003 2:37:15 AM PST by Cathryn Mataga
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To: Cathryn Mataga
Except Saddam will put his stooges in power.
3 posted on 02/09/2003 2:51:19 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: Cathryn Mataga
His sons have to go too:

Uday: Feared son turns politician
BBC News, March 28 2000

Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's eldest son, Uday, has met with success in his first foray into politics, receiving 99.99% backing in parliamentary elections in his Baghdad constituency.

Uday's candidacy is seen as a move to take on a more prominent public profile but until now he has been best known for his playboy image, unrivalled trading and media empire and fearsome reputation for brutality.

The 35-year-old has accumulated a host of roles, most notably ownership of the leading Iraqi daily newspaper Babel, and chairmanship of the country's Olympic Committee, football association and journalists' union.

He also heads TV and radio stations, is chairman of the board of seven weekly newspapers and owns a night-club. Uday's personal income is estimated to be hundreds of millions of dollars a year.

Iraqi opposition groups allege that his ventures include oil smuggling on a massive scale.

For many years, Uday acted as the de facto prime minister of Iraq. He was his father's favourite son and considered his heir.

But five years ago, he was sidelined after provoking a bloody family rift that led to the defection of Saddam's two sons-in-law to Jordan.

Assassination attempt

He partially redeemed himself when he lured the defectors back to Baghdad and personally took part in their execution.

A year later, would-be assassins sprayed Uday's white Mercedes with bullets while he was on his way to a party in Mansur, a fashionable district of Baghdad.

The injuries to his legs and spine appeared to leave him partially paralysed.

It is believed the attack was carried out by ordinary Iraqis seeking revenge for Uday's legendary depredations, in particular his notorious pursuit of women.

Later, a member of the group which said it had carried out the attack told a British newspaper that, although they had failed to kill Uday, they believed they had eliminated him as a political leader.

'Violent rages'

In the aftermath of that assassination attempt, Iraqi opposition groups said Uday's younger brother, Qusay was given increasing power.

He took charge of the Fedayeen unit (Arabic for fighters who will sacrifice themselves), which was founded by the older son.

This was interpreted as a sign that Uday had become too frail to be considered the heir apparent any longer.

After his discharge from hospital in June 1997, there were reports that he was suffering severe depression and was subject to violent rages.

A month after his release, he shot dead a young bodyguard, and a week later was reported to have killed a woman he had brought to the presidential palace to seduce.

Uday acquired a fearsome reputation as a young man.

Football allegations

As a 15-year-old, he was rumoured to have taken part in a massacre of cabinet ministers that consolidated his father's grip on power.

Other stories have been told of his fleet of sports cars and of the women he abducted at gunpoint.

In 1988, he is alleged to have beaten to death one of Saddam's aides, accusing him of playing the intermediary between a woman and his father.

He was sent into exile in Geneva, but returned to take direct charge of the Iraqi football team's attempt to qualify for the 1994 World Cup in the United States.

But there were reports that Uday had football players humiliated, beaten and tortured for playing badly or after losing critical matches.

Fifa, international football's governing body, launched an investigation, and said later it had found no evidence of torture.

But last year, one of the country's star players, Sharar Haydar Mohaad al Hadithi, told the Sunday Times newspaper that he had undergone torture ordered by Uday.

Nowadays, Uday is more "reflective and mature", according to his aides.

Footage has repeatedly been shown on Iraqi television of him receiving foreign dignitaries and awarding medals to the fedayeen, the paramilitary group he has taken charge of again.

And two years ago, he published his 300-page political science doctorate as a supplement inside Babel. It dealt with the effect of post-Cold War conditions on America's superpower status.

Public proof of Uday's physical rehabilitation came last December when Iraqi television showed him swimming in the Tigris river.

The entire Hussein gang needs to be cleared out of power.

Regards, Ivan

4 posted on 02/09/2003 2:58:55 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
I hadn't come across this before... sickening.
5 posted on 02/09/2003 3:09:07 AM PST by Tamzee (There are 10 types of people... those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: Tamsey
More on Uday:

The horrors of Saddam's 'sadist' son
ESPN.Com

In the history of the world, an expanse that covers Genghis Khan and Adolf Hitler and other despots both past and present, there is no shortage of absolute rulers whose human rights records compare with that of today's designated pariah, Saddam Hussein.

There may never have been a sports official, though, as brutal as his son, Uday.

As president of the Iraqi National Olympic Committee, Uday allegedly tortures athletes for losing games. He sticks them in prison for days or months at a time. Has them beaten with iron bars. Caned on the soles of their feet. Chained to walls and left to stay in contorted positions for days. Dragged on pavement until their backs are bloody, then dunked in sewage to ensure the wounds become infected. If Uday stops by a player's jail cell, he might urinate on his bowed, shaven head. Just to humiliate him.

This is the picture that emerges of Uday Saddam Hussein from ESPN.com interviews in the United States and England with former Iraqi national team athletes in several sports. Some of them claim they were personally tortured. All of them say they lived in fear that they would be punished at Uday's whim.

"You may find (his brutality) absurd or disgusting," said Issam Thamer al-Diwan, former coach of Uday's personal club volleyball team and a national team player before that. "Well, Uday thinks this is legitimate."

Human rights monitors for the United Nations have amply documented the savagery of Saddam Hussein. His eldest son and a possible successor, Uday, reportedly grew up watching his father punish political opponents as a way to control a large, diverse country. Uday, now 38, has earned his own reputation for violent behavior. In an Amnesty International report, Uday reportedly ordered that the hand of an Olympic committee security guard, accused of stealing sports equipment, be cut off. The missing equipment was later found. Similar incidents tied to Uday later became part of a United Nations report on human rights in Iraq.


Indict, a human rights group, submitted this photo of an unnamed Iraqi table tennis player, who claims he was tortured under orders of Uday Hussein, in its report to the International Olympic Committee.
But far less is known about Uday's treatment of Iraqi athletes, whose accounts suggest they were tortured for reasons that are not always apparent -- but had nothing to do with politics or crime.

Some athletes say he does it to encourage better performances. Others say he does it just for fun.

"The word that suits him is sadist," said Latif Yahia, who as Uday's former body double and a member of his entourage claims to have witnessed the punishment of about 10 athletes. "I think Saddam's more human than Uday."

Uday Hussein did not respond to ESPN.com requests for comment that were placed separately through the Iraqi permanent mission to the United Nations, Mohammed Aldouri, and the Iraqi National Olympic Committee. In a brief telephone interview, Jabbar al-Hadooshi, who identified himself as an INOC deputy, offered a blanket denial that any athletes have been imprisoned and punished.

"There was no torture," he said through a translator. "What we suffer from is the embargo (against trade with Iraq imposed by the United Nations). The embargo has affected every sector in Iraq, including sports."

He did not explain his rationale other than to say the embargo has affected Iraq's ability to buy the sports equipment necessary to produce winning teams and athletes.

Former players and coaches, though, say Uday is the problem with Iraqi sports. They say the threat of being tortured, and the interference of Uday -- who is known to scream at players at halftime of soccer matches and dictate to coaches who will play -- undermined their performances.

"The Iraqi teams used to produce the champions of Asia in many sports," said Abid "The King" Kadhum, an Iraqi soccer star from the 1960s and '70s who later became coach of Uday's personal soccer club, al-Rashid. "They have declined since the arrival of Uday."

Iraq's only Olympic medal came in 1960, a bronze in weightlifting. That was long before Uday became head of the country's committee in 1984, and now the nation barely participates in the Olympics. Iraq sent just four athletes to the 2000 Games in Sydney, down from its high of 43 in 1980. Still, Iraqi officials have expressed interest in bidding for Baghdad to become host of the 2012 Summer Games.

In 1997, FIFA, the governing body for international soccer, sent soccer officials from Qatar and Malaysia to Baghdad to investigate a report that members of the national team were imprisoned and had their feet caned after losing a World Cup qualifying game to Kazakhstan. FIFA exonerated Iraq, saying they found no evidence of torture after interviewing and physically examining 12 players.

Sharar Haydar, who was on the Iraqi team at the time but sat out the game with an injury, told ESPN.com that players, indeed, were tortured. He said his teammates joked with each other about their inability to tell the truth to the FIFA officials during their two-day visit.

"I mean, nobody was going to say anything," Haydar said.

Many exiled athletes and coaches are still reluctant to talk about playing sports under Uday, fearing retribution against themselves or family members left behind in Iraq. But those who did agree to speak with ESPN.com had plenty to say, describing governmental treatment of athletes that defies comparison. The only parallel in modern sports history might be from the era of Stalinist Russia, when the secret police chief was known to send soccer players to Siberian gulags.

The athletes' accounts buttress reports from Amnesty International and the United Nations, which, without describing the torture of athletes, have cited the existence of a secret prison inside the Iraqi National Olympic Committee headquarters. Yahia said the building has become little more than the criminal business headquarters for Uday, who allegedly uses the facility to store cigarettes and other illegal goods.

"We took $125 million from Kuwait," Yahia said, of the looting he claims he was ordered to participate in after Iraq invaded the neighboring country in 1990. "This is just for Uday. The cars, furniture -- every single thing (we took) was stored in the Iraqi Olympic building."

Uday also used his Olympic association when his band of thieves were denied in Kuwait. In October 1990, Uday wrote a letter to his uncle Ali Hassan al-Majid, who was in charge of the Iraqi occupation of Kuwait, requesting that he allow Uday's associates to take a Kuwaiti printing press that he coveted "as a service to the sports movement." The letter, later recovered after U.N. forces pushed the Iraqi military back out of Kuwait, is signed by Uday on his personal stationery.

"This is not a sports place," Yahia said. "This is Uday's palace, Uday's world."

Uday, known for his affinity for fast cars and Cuban cigars, was considered Saddam's heir until 1996 when an assassination attempt left him partially disabled below the waist. Now, his younger brother, Qusay, has been given more responsibility within the regime. Uday, however, does oversee much of the news media in Iraq and runs a state security unit called "Saddam's Revolutionary Fighters," whose job is to protect his father from threats to his power.

That security unit, like his business empire, is housed in the Olympic committee building, creating an atmosphere of fear, athletes say.

"(Anyone) who comes to apply for a job with the government as a doctor, engineer or instructor must get a security clearance from the Olympic committee, which is strange and extraordinary," said Muhsin Hassan, a former national team boxer. "They do this only to spy on them, so anyone can see (Uday) controls everything in Iraq."

Beyond the torture of athletes, forces working for Uday and his father have killed more than 50 former athletes and sports figures, according to the Iraqi Olympic Council, a nascent group of exiled Iraqi athletes. Thamer, who heads the group, said most of the athletes were killed for what were described as political reasons. But, he argues, their status as high-profile, influential athletes often made them greater threats to the regime. (See dossier of allegations by Iraqi athletes against Uday Hussein.)

"They executed them because they were popular as athletes," said al-Diwan, who has submitted the list to the U.S. State Department and plans to send it to the International Olympic Committee.

The allegations in the ESPN.com report come on the heels of a formal complaint filed with the International Olympic Committee earlier this month. Indict, a London-based human rights group created in 1997 that seeks to bring criminal charges against the top leaders of the Iraqi regime, asked the IOC Ethics Commission earlier this month to suspend or expel the country from the Olympics based on violations of the IOC code of ethics. The IOC, which has no sway over a nation's choice for its Olympic committee chief, is reviewing the request.

"The IOC strongly condemns any violation of athletes' rights," IOC spokeswoman Giselle Davies said in a statement to ESPN.com. "The Olympic Movement's mission around the world is aimed at the development of stronger individuals through the practice of sport. Any abuse of this system runs counter to our organization's ideals."

Most of the athletes who spoke with ESPN.com were not mentioned in the Indict complaint, but each is supportive of efforts to protect Iraqi athletes. The first-person accounts of three of those athletes are detailed in this report, along with a timeline that serves as a dossier of allegations and evidence of abuse by Iraqi Olympic officials.

"We are ready to stand face-to-face with those who defend Uday, in the same courtroom," al-Diwan said. "We can bring thousands of witnesses (and pieces of) evidence when Uday is brought to trial. We are ready to do this."

Individual stories of terror and torture from Uday are available at the ESPN site - the link is in the article title.

Regards, Ivan

6 posted on 02/09/2003 3:21:44 AM PST by MadIvan
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To: HAL9000
What CRAP!! Mandella and Saddam should both step down ...... to HELL!!!!!!!!!
7 posted on 02/09/2003 3:21:58 AM PST by Highest Authority
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To: MadIvan
Thank you for the added info... random, sadistic torturing on a whim, got it :-(

I'm ashamed it's taken so long to help Iraq get out from under these butchers.
8 posted on 02/09/2003 3:37:20 AM PST by Tamzee (There are 10 types of people... those who read binary, and those who don't.)
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To: HAL9000
bump
9 posted on 02/09/2003 3:41:01 AM PST by chasio649
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To: HAL9000
Oh, Oh. some Iraqis are in very serious trouble. ONLY
99.99% voted for UDay.

"Uday, has met with success in his first foray into politics, receiving 99.99% backing in parliamentary elections in his Baghdad constituency. "
10 posted on 02/09/2003 5:09:28 AM PST by sd-joe
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To: MadIvan
The entire Hussein gang needs to be cleared out of power.

Agreed. Anything less than total regime change is unacceptable.

11 posted on 02/09/2003 5:15:50 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer (Let's Roll)
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