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[Cicero]

"I fear during the last two years our administration has not listened to Europe," said Lieberman, who has declared his presidential candidacy for the United States.

What is the first principle of patriotic bipartisanship? "Politics ends at the water's edge." Well, that principle vanished during the clinton regime, and it's obvious that the Democrats and the liberal press no longer respect it.

It's bad enough to play politics with delicate international matters and our country's security interests, but to undermine an elected administration in the context of a NATO meeting in Europe is unconscionable.

[Jim Noble]

>>"I fear during the last two years our administration has not listened to Europe," said Lieberman<<

Disgusting.

Who gives a rat's ass?

[witnesstothefall]

"ridicule"

Ouch. That'll leave a mark.

[PhiKapMom]

This is not the take I got from Lieberman when I saw his clip of remarks on MSNBC but if this is what he said afterward -- fine with me -- putting Party over Country once again would be LIE's agenda.

McCain was really mad at the Germans and French.

As for Rumsfeld -- what can I say? I love the guy and his plain speaking manner -- tells it like it is!

[ffusco]

Lieberman is such a complete bastard.

[Gritty]

"We owe our own democracy to America," he conceded, recalling World War II, "but we have to be convinced."

"Excuse me," he shouted, switching to English, "I'm not convinced!"

The only thing surprising here is Rummy didn't stand right up and bitch-slap this little communist pissant!

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

Rumsfeld irate over secret plan on Iraq

I think that this title is misleading. The media likes to describe President Bush and his people of being "angry", "furious", and "irate" at any opportunity.

Whenever I saw Rumsfeld talking about Germany and France in press conferences, he never seemed angry and irate to me. I think that he was matter-of-factly giving his honest assessment of the situation and I love him for doing it. I'm sick of the Klinton method of trying to buy off and pander to any country in the world that has something bad to say about us.

[cynicom]

Sic em Rummy.

[IncPen]

My grandfather and my father served this country to defeat Germany and liberate France not once, but twice.

My own son will not do the same for them.

The French and German people do not deserve the land they live on

[gaspar]

Rumsfeld is fighting, literally fighting, to save not only the soul of the United Nations, but of NATO, the EC, and the Democrat Party. He might save the first three, but the fourth is too far gone.

[Fabozz]

"Sen. Joseph Lieberman, D-Conn., took a more conciliatory tone, saying he understood part of the reason for the rift: the Bush administration's balking at the Kyoto global climate change treaty, the international criminal court and the abrogation of the 1972 Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty with Russia."

Hmm, let's see... opting out of two unsigned treaties, and invoking the agreed-upon termination clause of a third treaty, is equivalent to willfully and contemptuously violating a ratified mutual-defense pact. Yup, moral relativism circuits operating at 100% efficiency—bring on the primaries!

[NonValueAdded]

"...including Germany and France -- who are blocking a NATO proposal to direct the Strategic Allied Commander Europe to prepare a Patriot missile battery, a surveillance plane and chemical and biological detectors to protect Turkey from a possible attack from Iraq."

Thats all we're asking? And NATO has a problem with that??? Well, the scum of the earth said it best, that's it for you.(WKRP flashback for you young'uns).

Someone had a post earlier in another thread about Warsaw Pact II. I think it's time.

[The Wizard]

expect a veto or a war Monday

[VA40]

German Foreign Minister Joschka Fischer made a passionate, defensive response to Rumsfeld's charges.
"We are doing better than the others are!" he said, referring to the German troop contribution to Afghanistan, which now numbers 3,000, he said

Did he stomp up and down too? What a childish remark! How can Rumsfeld stand it, dealing with these idiots. 3000 troops - he thinks that's some big deal? Don't they realize this "containment" is costing us billions every day. We have tens of thousands of our troops, reserves and their families with all their lives on hold (and our economy along with them).

[jbstrick]

Has anyone read CAULDRON by Larry Bond?

This book is about the French and Germans forming an allince to counter the US in eorupe.

It is begining to sound very familiar.

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Short Description
With the world's old alliances and economic order shattered by a ruinous trade war, France and Germany seize the chance to build a new European order. Poland and the Czech Republic stand in their way, and when America and Britain join them, northern Europe explodes into war.

[Mr.Clark]

I'm pissed off about the French and German inaction on Iraq, but this refusal to allow a NATO ally decent protection is absolutely inexcusable. I think the 16 right thinking NATO allies should take action, at least censure these 3 holdouts.

[Aaron0617]

aahhhhhhhh...I'm okay now.

The United States proposed NATO send Patriot missiles, an AWACS plane and chemical and biological weapons detection equipment to Turkey three weeks ago. The proposal has been stalled because of Germany and France's objections, the senior defense official said.

The above two sentences had me screaming at my computer for a full minute. But I'm alright. I think I'll get some water now.

[radioman]

I love it!
Germany and France goose stepping together with their silly blue helmets...lol!

This is the perfect opportunity to cut ourselves loose from these idiots. We should close our bases in Germany and base our troops in one of our allies countries.

Germany and France will be allied with Iraq in the Atlantic and North Korea in the Pacific. Looks like WWIII to me!

I would suggest that we not repeat our past mistakes. No Marshall plan for 'em this time, just leave 'em in the stone age after we're done!

[Right_in_Virginia]

"I fear during the last two years our administration has not listened to Europe," said Lieberman..."

I fear Mr. Lieberman needs an Atlas. Europe is more than France and Germany.