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To: Physicist
The problem with teaching physics first is that even the most basic principles require mathematics that aren't usually taught until late in the game (vectors and trigonometry, for example). Chemistry and biology don't have these requirements.

It is inexcusable, however, that such an overwhelming majority of incoming college students have such a poorly developed "physics sense".

I agree that it's inexcusable. However, I look at my kindergartener who is currently immersed in recognizing fractions and fraction theory (pies, sets of things, cut up balls) and I ask myself why we can't accelerate these skills. Since I believe math and physics are languages (albeit left brain languages) and language - vocabulary, syntax, ability - is built through practice why are we waiting to introduce math skills? We certainly don't do it with English language skills.

11 posted on 02/08/2003 7:24:09 AM PST by Archangelsk ("God does not roll dice against the universe." A. Einstein)
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To: Archangelsk
We certainly don't do it with English language skills.

do it = wait

13 posted on 02/08/2003 7:26:08 AM PST by Archangelsk ("God does not roll dice against the universe." A. Einstein)
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To: Archangelsk
I ask myself why we can't accelerate these skills.

Because in public education, they are forbidden from going faster than some bureaucrat (read: democrat) imagines the slowest child can go. No child is left behind, because no child is permitted to run.

16 posted on 02/08/2003 7:38:37 AM PST by Physicist
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To: Archangelsk
I agree that it's inexcusable. However, I look at my kindergartener who is currently immersed in recognizing fractions and fraction theory (pies, sets of things, cut up balls) and I ask myself why we can't accelerate these skills. Since I believe math and physics are languages (albeit left brain languages) and language - vocabulary, syntax, ability - is built through practice why are we waiting to introduce math skills?

I don't know what they've done to math curriculum these days! My son is a 5th grader and is just now reducing fractions. Division wasn't taught until the end of 4th grade. It seems that they spent 1st-3rd exclusively on addition and subtraction.

But at the same time, it seems to me that instead of simply teaching addition, they are throwing all kinds of things into the mix. The kids get a little taste of algebra, measuring and word problems with each newly added concept. It sounds good, to have them exposed to these things, and yet I wonder if that is part of the problem? Are we throwing in all these fancy things and losing sight of the fact that they can't simply add all that well?

48 posted on 02/08/2003 11:29:53 PM PST by Dianna
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