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Bill Clinton's December 1969 letter to his ROTC Director, Colonel Eugene Holmes.
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Posted on 02/07/2003 8:25:21 PM PST by John Lenin

The following is Bill Clinton's December 1969 letter to his ROTC Director, Colonel Eugene Holmes. This text was taken verbatim from "SLICK WILLIE", by Floyd G. Brown. Not a word has been changed.


I am sorry to be so long in writing. I know I promised to let you hear from me at least once a month, and from now on you will, but I have had to have some time to think about this first letter. Almost daily since my return to England I have thought about writing, about what I want to and ought to say. 
First, I want to thank you, not just for saving me from the draft, but for being so kind and decent to me last summer, when I was as low as I have ever been. One thing which made the bond we struck in good faith somewhat palatable to me was my high regard for you personally. In retrospect, it seems that the admiration might not have been mutual had you known a little more about me, about my political beliefs and activities. At least you might have thought me more fit for the draft than for ROTC. 
Let me try to explain. As you know, I worked for two years in a very minor position on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. I did it for the experience and the salary but also for the opportunity, however small, of working every day against a war I opposed and despised with a depth of feeling I had reserved solely for racism in America before Vietnam. I did not take the matter lightly but studied it carefully, and there was a time when not many people had more information about Vietnam at hand than I did. 
I have written and spoken and marched against the war. One of the national organizers of the Vietnam Moratorium is a close friend of mine, After I left Arkansas last summer, I went to Washington to work in the national headquarters of the Moratorium, then to England to organize the Americans for the demonstrations Oct. 15 and Nov. 16. 
Interlocked with the war is the draft issue, which I did not begin to consider separately until early 1968. For a law seminar Georgetown I wrote a paper on the legal arguments for and against allowing, within the Selective Service System, the classification of selective conscientious objection, for those opposed to participation in a particular war, not simply to "participation in war in any form." 
From my work I came to believe that the draft system itself is illegitimate. No government really rooted in limited, parliamentary democracy should have the power to make its citizens fight and kill and die in a war they may oppose, a war which even possibly may be wrong, a war which, in any case, does not involve immediately the peace and freedom of the nation. 
The draft was justified in World War II because the life of the people collectively was at stake. Individuals had to fight, if the nation was to survive, for the lives of their countrymen and their way of life. Vietnam is no such case. Nor was Korea an example where, in my opinion, certain military action was justified but the draft was not, for the reasons stated above. 
Because of my opposition to the draft and the war, I am in great sympathy with those who are not willing to fight, kill, and maybe die for their country (i.e. the particular policy of a particular government) right or wrong. Two of my friends at Oxford are conscientious objectors. I wrote a letter of recommendation for one of them to his Mississippi draft board, a letter which I am more proud of than anything else I wrote at Oxford last year. One of my roommates is a draft resister who is possibly under indictment and may never be able to go home again. He is one of the bravest, best men I know. That he is considered a criminal is an obscenity. 
The decision not to be a resister and the related subsequent decisions were the most difficult of my life. I decided to accept the draft in spite of my beliefs for one reason: to maintain my political viability within the system. For years I have worked to prepare myself for a political life characterized by both practical political ability and concern for rapid social progress. It is a life I still feel compelled to try to lead. I do not think our system of government is by definition corrupt, however dangerous and inadequate it has been in recent years. (The society may be corrupt, but that is not the same thing, and if that is true we are all finished anyway.) 
When the draft came, despite political convictions, I was having a hard time facing the prospect of fighting a war I had been fighting against, and that is why I contacted you. ROTC was the one way left in which I could possibly, but not positively, avoid both Vietnam and resistance. Going on with my education, even coming back to England, played no part in my decision to join ROTC. I am back here, and would have been at Arkansas Law School because there is nothing else I can do. In fact, I would like to have been able to take a year out perhaps to teach in a small college or work on some community action project and in the process to decide whether to attend law school or graduate school and how to begin putting what I have learned to use. 
But the particulars of my personal life are not nearly as important to me as the principles involved. After I signed the ROTC letter of intent I began to wonder whether the compromise I had made with myself was not more objectionable than the draft would have been, because I had no interest in the ROTC program in itself and all I seemed to have done was to protect myself from physical harm. Also, I began to think I had deceived you, not by lies because there were none but by failing to tell you all the things I'm writing now. I doubt that I had the mental coherence to articulate them then. 
At that time, after we had made our agreement and you had sent my 1-D deferment to my draft board, the anguish and loss of my self-regard and self confidence really set in. I hardly slept for weeks and kept going by eating compulsively and reading until exhaustion brought sleep. Finally, on Sept. 12 I stayed up all night writing a letter to the chairman of my draft board, saying basically what is in the preceding paragraph, thanking him for trying to help in a case where he really couldn't, and stating that I couldn't do the ROTC after all and would he please draft me as soon as possible. 
I never mailed the letter, but I did carry it on me every day until I got on the plane to return to England. I didn't mail the letter because I didn't see, in the end, how my going in the army and maybe going to Vietnam would achieve anything except a feeling that I had punished myself and gotten what I deserved. So I came back to England to try to make something of this second year of my Rhodes scholarship. 
And that is where I am now, writing to you because you have been good to me and have a right to know what I think and feel. I am writing too in the hope that my telling this one story will help you to understand more clearly how so many fine people have come to find themselves still loving their country but loathing the military, to which you and other good men have devoted years, lifetimes, of the best service you could give. To many of us, it is no longer clear what is service and what is disservice, or if it is clear, the conclusion is likely to be illegal. 
Forgive the length of this letter. There was much to say. There is still a lot to be said, but it can wait. Please say hello to Col. Jones for me. 

Merry Christmas.

Sincerely,
Bill Clinton

Colonel Eugene Holmes' September 1992 affidavit concerning Bill Clinton and the draft:


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To: doug from upland
Good to see you Doug, I remember that year very well, too. I had just left CNO's shop and took my first command. The bombing was increasing in intensity -- especially Rolling Thunder in Route Packages 6 and 6 Alfa...and the losses were acute, to say the least. (Connie and Kitty Hawk were very busy)

Even today when I see Clinton's name in print, I sometimes need to go to the bathroom and put my head in the throne. It still affects me to that degree --even after this length of time. His vileness is beyond description by my humble pen.

Cheers, dear friend, and have a delightful year. The drums are beating; and I anticipate we will all have serious work ahead. Thank GOD for George and the First Lady !! DKP
41 posted on 02/07/2003 10:35:11 PM PST by dk/coro
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To: jraven; doug from upland; John Lenin
I'm amazed that this is posted after he's already discredited by this. Amazing. Aren't there a lot of bigger bogeymen running around in the US Congress and the world who need to be exposed here -- rather than reruns???

With all due respect, he has NOT been discredited enough. He refuses to retire with dignity. When his name even APPEARS on a potential list of the best POTUS ever, and that receives serious press coverage, he has NOT been discredited enough. When he and the Mrs. take it upon themselves to publicly criticize President Bush and are deemed credible by the press, he has NOT been discredited enough. Doug, keep it out there, please.

42 posted on 02/07/2003 11:53:15 PM PST by lorrainer (bill, crawl back under the rock from whence you came...)
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To: jraven
Nonsense, with Hillary out there he could be sitting in the White House again.
43 posted on 02/07/2003 11:58:07 PM PST by John Lenin
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To: doug from upland
Thanks for your post... I've been reading some WWII history lately and the things that our soldiers went through at the hands of the Japanese are beyond words... I feel compelled to know about itto honor the sacrifices of those men...
44 posted on 02/08/2003 7:21:24 AM PST by IncPen ( Every bite of every sandwich is important - Warren Zevon, on his terminal cancer diagnosis)
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To: BartMan1
ping
45 posted on 02/08/2003 7:25:44 AM PST by IncPen ( Every bite of every sandwich is important - Warren Zevon, on his terminal cancer diagnosis)
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To: dighton
Reader's Digest condensed version: "I am a p***y."
46 posted on 02/08/2003 8:30:18 AM PST by SMEDLEYBUTLER
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To: SMEDLEYBUTLER
Your's is even more condensed than mine.

"Bill Clinton, the College Years: Europe on 50 Lies a Day."
47 posted on 02/08/2003 8:55:58 AM PST by TruthFactor
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To: lorrainer
I will not stop because he won't go away and his wife is ready to pick up where he left off. We still have a battle against these cockroaches from Arkansas. The SOB has been interfering with our foreign policy since he left office.
48 posted on 02/08/2003 9:11:21 AM PST by doug from upland (May the Clintons live their remaining days in orange jumpsuits sharing the same 6 x 9 cell.)
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To: doug from upland
Thank you. How silly is it when Jimmy Carter seems relatively patriotic by comparison? Xlinton is our Rasputin. Or Svengali. Or Mountebank. Or Philby. Or Barnum. Or Quisling. Pick one and get them out of here.
49 posted on 02/08/2003 12:10:06 PM PST by lorrainer (Take away their orange jumpsuits, too. (Yuk!))
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To: doug from upland
....he won't go away and his wife is ready to pick up where he left off.

Ohmygawd. A thought guaranteed to produce nightmares.

50 posted on 02/08/2003 9:39:22 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: NMFXSTC
I went to Vietnam in 1965, along with a battalion of Marines mostly between the ages of 17 and 22....many of their names can be read on Panel 05-E at the Wall."

I visited the wall soon after it opened. There was a squad of volunteer veterans there who helped people locate names on the wall. When I went, it was after dark and a full moon was shining on the black granite - it made the Wall seem even more beautiful and somber and almost overwhelming. The guy that showed me around with his flashlight said to me, "I'm doing this for my buddies. They're up there watching me." God bless them all.

51 posted on 02/08/2003 9:50:13 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: doug from upland
I had never seen that before, and didn't know he was a Bataan survivor. Thanks for digging that up.
52 posted on 02/08/2003 9:52:13 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Eleven. Exactly. One louder.)
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To: doug from upland
But as Mr. Clinton replied on a news conference this evening (Sept. 5) after being asked another particular about his dodging the draft, "Almost everyone concerned with these incidents are dead. I have no more comments to make." Since I may be the only person living who can give a firsthand account of what actually transpired, I am obligated by my love for my country and my sense of duty to divulge what actually happened and make it a matter of record.

I'm writing these comments to let everyone know that I love my country more than I do my own personal security and well-being.

Did these portions jump off the page for anyone else???

53 posted on 02/08/2003 9:56:57 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got, you know, armadillos in our trousers. I mean, it's really quite frightening.)
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To: Chad Fairbanks
They did for me. (And a man who'd been to hell and back as he had would surely recognize danger when he saw it.)
54 posted on 02/08/2003 10:00:43 PM PST by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet (Eleven. Exactly. One louder.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I just wish more people had recognized the danger BEFORE it weakened our nation...
55 posted on 02/08/2003 10:03:25 PM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got, you know, armadillos in our trousers. I mean, it's really quite frightening.)
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