[quebecois]

The problem is this: western nations, which are secular and materialistic, view childrearing as an expensive hobby. The only reason that folks throughout the west have any children at all is to satisfy the nuturing, maternal instinct that exists in most women. Problem is, this instinct can be satiated by one child, or two at most.

But in order to have a healthy, growing population, the average woman must have 2-3 kids...not 1-2. The individualistic view of childbearing just doesn't cut it...it doesn't give any motivation to women to have enough kids.

Only religious conviction, compounded by a cultural expectation of having large families to continue the existence of a cultural/tribal group, can provide adequate incentive to women to have more babies.

To the extent that govt policy can influence this (which is debatable), I would suggest that we pass a law that any married couple who has more than 4 biological children is permanently exempted from paying income tax. This would provide an incentive to those who have significant incomes to have kids, without also stimulating increased fertility amongst those who can't afford to raise kids to begin with.

[Fishrrman]

quebecois wrote:
"Only religious conviction, compounded by a cultural expectation of having large families to continue the existence of a cultural/tribal group, can provide adequate incentive to women to have more babies."

Very well stated.

But --- consider the propraganda that is being preached to whites nearly everywhere in the world today: that whites are evil, that whites are racists, that whites are polluters, that whites are enslavers, that whites are imperialistic, that the white man's main accomplishment has been to exploit the earth's nonwhite peoples, at the same time depleting its resources and forever ruining its natural beauty.

In such an atmosphere, it is any wonder that young whites don't harbor the enthusiam to create large families through which "to continue the existence of [their] cultural/tribal group"? After all, don't they belong to the most oppressive, evil cultural group in human history? (laughs)

Conversely, I sense that children in most Islamic schools are being taught that -- regardless of the oppression foisted upon them by the West -- that they are a population "in acscendance", with a triumphant future before them. There's a good reason why the maps of Islam don't show Israel: it is because Islam believes it has a future; the Western world teeters on the verge of forfeiting such beliefs.

Make no mistake about the original article of this discussion. It bemoans the fact that [Japan and Singapore aside] those populations that are in decline are white, western, mostly Christian peoples, and that those populations that threaten to overwhelm them in numbers are not. Of course, this is not explicitly stated, for to openly mouth such ideas (as I am doing here) invites one to be branded as "racist". But that's what it infers.

Cheers!
- John