Posted on 02/06/2003 11:14:17 PM PST by Life of Brian
Suppose it happened. I'm talking about Iraq and Saddam laying out at the inspectors feet all of their WMD or at least enough to satisfy the inspectors. What then? Headlines read: "IRAQ DISARMS!" Is it unlikely to happen? Perhaps, but wouldn't it be somehow ironically anti-climactic? Everything is verified. Everything is in order. Now what? Do the UN resolutions address how to respond in such an event? I would be interested to know how Freepers feel about this or how "the world community" handles an Iraq that 'comes clean'.
When I suggested to you a couple weeks ago that neutralization of Saddam's anthrax 'sleepers' was necessary before we attacked, you told me that neutralization is next to impossible. Do you now think it's possible, but will just take a lot longer to accomplish?
Interesting. And the MAD may have been the reason for the sudden end to the last stand-off. Still, how do you handle the situation if Saddam 'comes clean' presupposing that there will be a war if he doesn't?
Saddam can never come clean, because his hands are bloody, and we know it, and we have the goods on him. The main thing you need to understand is that everything is the opposite of what the media tells you. Bush is not straining to cobble together evidence linking Saddam to Al-Qaeda and 9-11. Quite the opposite. Bush is deliberately hiding the fact that he has understood that Saddam was the author of 9-11 all along. Until you understand that -- I mean really "grok" it -- you cannot have any hope of understanding or analyzing the current world situation correctly. It is that simple.
lol. Hey! Ain't it groovy? And Saddam can lead the chorus all smiley-faced and brotherly, while that 'mean ole grinch' Rumsfeld throws the tablets down and breaks them to pieces.
Saddam knows his history, and knows what works. What does not work is laying down your arms prior to battle. Saddam has his heroes. They include folks like Nassar and Stalin. Saddam wouldn't even consider doing this scenario, as it would not raise, but lower, the Arab streets reverence for him. Saddam is not driven by weasaling out of war with the US, like perhaps Bubba might, if Bubba's personality were put in that situation.
There is no way in Allah's Hell that we'd allow our troops to eat sand for another year and a half over in that hellhole without seeing action. In addition, we need to get this resolved as quickly as possible so we can effectively deal with our next project, Kim Jong Il. And most importantly, the Rats would have a field day if Bush allowed Saddam another 18 (or even 12) months. The momentum is building to a fever pitch, and the administration would never allow this to happen unless we were going to be making a big move, and soon. All public support would be lost, and securing a 2nd term would be next to an impossibility.
It'll all be taken care of before the Ides of March.
It occurred to me today that the world can no longer ignore evil governments due to the spread of WMD.
WMD, like guns, level the playing field. The problem is that, as in the cold war, our hands are tied, and we can't liberate a country once it has them.
For sure his hands are bloody! But the perception that he is becoming a new man can go a long way. Especially coupled with 'cooperation' with such an illustrious body as the UN. They could have a field day with this. Many questions on both sides..."why didn't you come clean earlier?" Because our country (Iraq) is a large country. Not everybody knows about this thing or that. It takes time to inventory and catalog and determine just what is where. We did that and have presented the materials to you (UN) in good faith. From henceforth we are exonerated! We are a peaceful nation and mean no harm to our brotherly neighbors! "But you said you didn't have such materials". Yes, but Saddam told us to search more diligently...to press harder, to check every trashcan if need be, every gutter."
He wouldn't even have to turn over all he's got. He could just satisfy the inspectors with most of the materials on the list. Hans 'ingnorance is' Blix could report we have peace in our time! My God, can you hear the left chanting in the streets? "Saddam is Clean!" Saddam is Clean!"
This seems reasonable to me, but he would stay in power until officially charged with violations by some officially officiating body which would then have to set another official deadline for him to actually turn himself in officially at the proper place within the limits officially imposed by the officiating body. Whew! How long does that take and if he doesn't officially hand himself over then must there be another officially issued resolution before he can be...ahhhhhhhh!!!
I think this line is key. See post #35. Realistically, given that the intent of Saddam is to delay till hell freezes over; realistically how long would you think the delay could be?
If that is so, then why pussy-foot around with the UN about it? Why not announce it to the 'world' along with the plain facts that Saddam is the author of 9-11?
That's funny! Maybe I think too much like Bubba, oh-oh One thing though to keep in mind. He doesn't give-up his conventional capabilities and is not required too do that. Such a senario is highly unlikely but it would perhaps buy him time and it need not gain him prestigue with the Arab street, but rather with the left if properly done.
The shoe bomber's attorney attempted early in the proceedings to claim that he was trying to burn a loose thread off of his shoes. Later the shoe bomber confessed everything and at the end of his trial was still unrepentent yet he only got life rather than a death sentence.
Doesn't look like we will have to deal with a trial of Osama Bin Laden though. And just because we don't see a body doesn't mean that he isn't dead. Never saw a body of Adolph Hitler either.
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