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The Coming War, Talk Radio, Demo's -- a Rare BibChr Rant
2/6/2003 | Daniel J. Phillips (BibChr)

Posted on 02/06/2003 7:06:58 AM PST by BibChr

This essay could be titled:

An Isolationist Comes 'Round

or

Why Talk Radio Is Successful

or

Just In Case You Can't Think of Things to Thank God For, Here's One

I'll be brief. Not "Rush is really hot! Tune in!!!!!!!! Nothing follows" brief, but brief.

Having seen or read most of Colin Powell's somber, wide-ranging, damning presentation, and having caught a sampling of the responses from the French, the Demo's, and other fools, I reflected. And, having reflected, I offer you this.

First, How the world has changed. By conviction, I tend more towards isolationism. Have for years. The thought of trotting off to a Middle Eastern country and whacking its dictator, presented that way, would be abhorrent to me.

However, 9/11 has changed my perspective, and for a reason. Think of this: in our Founding Fathers' day, you would know of an enemy's intention either by his declaration of hostility, or by the sight of a fleet sailing towards America across the ocean blue, or by troops marching towards us across terra firma. Words would fly, armies would mass, attack would be visibly imminent. The weapons of mass warfare were close-range and limited.

Today, nineteen well-financed mongrels with a (literally) diabolically well-conceived plan can kill thousands of our citizens. This attack can be launched from half-way across the earth's globe, by one or more demonic despots. People like, oh, I don't know, help me out here....

Well, people like Saddam Hussein.

And these people needn't come in huge sailing ships, nor with tanks and jets. No a few suitcases will do. Even one. And tens of thousands of us can die.

How do you wage that war? How do you confront that enemy?

In a word, differently.

Second, leadership must emanate from grown-ups. You hear the Demo's saying things like, "I heard nothing new. I don't see the proof. There is no smoking gun. I am so confused, this administration has presented so many different conflicting positions, I can't follow it. One day it's because Saddam is evil, the next day he's a threat to us, the next day he's abusing his own people, the next day he's in with Al-Qaeda...."

I can clean it all up in one sentence. Ready? Here it is: the Bush Administration has proven that Saddam Hussein has the means to inflict colossal damage on America and others, that he has the intention of doing so, that he has in fact taken actions of this sort in the past, and that he has absolutely no moral compunctions against doing so.

Can you follow that? So can I. Why can't the Demo's? That ties up all the "conflicting lines" the Administration has taken. Saddam must be dealt with because he has the means, the will, and the stated intent of doing us grave damage. Left alone, he will. So he must not be left alone. Peaceful actions, taken over more than a decade's time, have failed. Time to escalate. I can follow that.

Third, the success of talk radio. You and I feel terrible frustration as we see public figures — actors, politicians, pundits — saying foolish things. What can we do?

Well, thanks to talk radio, even an insignificant, invisible, inconsequential nothing such as myself can get on and speak truth to power. We can do as I did on the Eric Hogue show today. (Eric says "Hi" to y'all, by the way.)

We can get on and say to the Demo's and their ilk, "THANK GOD you aren't leading! THANK GOD it isn't your decision to make! THANK GOD adults are in office, at the wheel, in charge!"

And those are my thoughts, free with the meal, hastily thrown together, for your amusement and edification.

Dan
Biblical Christianity web site


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KEYWORDS: democrats; iraq; liberals; talkradio
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To: Thinkin' Gal
You're a president slow, TG. The one whose speeches were always full of first person singular pronouns has finally Left The Building, thank God.

This now is the president who always features other peoples, goals, visions in his public addresses.

President Bush, by contrast then, likelier to say something like Nehemiah 4:6.

Dan

21 posted on 02/06/2003 9:45:59 AM PST by BibChr (Jesus -- not our feelings -- is the truth!)
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To: BibChr
Bumparoo !!!!!!
22 posted on 02/06/2003 10:09:25 AM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis (I never was any good at tag.)
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To: BibChr; happygrl; Thinkin' Gal
George is Gog,

He's set foot on the mountains of Israel,

These are what Israel will need.

Notes on: Daniel 9:27
The Temple will not be rebuilt until after the War of Gog and Magog, in Messianic times (Rashi).

23 posted on 02/06/2003 10:45:05 AM PST by Jeremiah Jr
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To: Jeremiah Jr
And the Benny Hinn Award for Weirdest Links in the Thread goes to... you!

Dan

24 posted on 02/06/2003 11:05:12 AM PST by BibChr (Jesus -- not our feelings -- is the truth!)
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To: RaceBannon
ping
25 posted on 02/06/2003 2:22:12 PM PST by BibChr (Jesus -- not our feelings -- is the truth!)
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To: Jeremiah Jr
Heard this through the grapevine:

> Jeremiah Jr posted three links indicating that:

> George is Gog,

Gimmel is the second letter of the Hebrew *Aleph-Bet.* As a letter is sounds like the English letter G. However, as a symbol, it also stands for the NUMBER 2.

There were TWO nations birthed from the seed of Abraham, but only ONE from Sarah. G-d chose Sarah's son, Isaac, with whom He made His Covenant. Ishmael was relegated to second place even though he was first born. Gog is the FIRST of the Second nation, ie: Amalek. That nation destroyed the COUNTRY of Israel back in history when the Roman Empire also fell to them. The Assyrians destroyed Solomon's Temple that had been restored by the Hebrews who returned from exile in Persia. It has never been rebuilt since.
This is the Second rise of Amalek, ALL of whom should have been destroyed in the Biblical Age, but were not because G-d was disobeyed.

> He's set foot on the mountains of Israel,

Gog, FIRST of the SECOND nation, set their feet on the mountains of Israel and never gave them back. What Israel is and has now is a mere shadow of its former self. The newslink here shows partnership with G-d, not an evil entity seeking to destroy, but to protect. I told you this is going to be a terrible time of tribulation. It is not the fault of those who are charged to protect. It is the fault of evil beings who desire the destruction of everything good in the world. There is no logic to it. Evil does as evil does because that is what it is. A scorpion by any other name.....
And it is the fault of those in this world who saw evil and chose to disregard it that allowed it to regain a stanglehold on the entire world. There is no reward for any of these people, just an end. If they were allowed to play out the hand they are trying to deal, they would have nothing to show for it at the end and would die off never being satisfied, because evil never is. If EVERYTHING is evil, then evil loses its purpose. It cannot feed. George Bush believes it has been allowed to feed much too much and for much too long.
He is not my Lord, nor is he my Messiah. Moses, Blessed be His Name, was not my Messiah. Rabbi Kahane, Blessed Be His Name, was not my Messiah. But LEADERS of great stature? Oh, my, YES!!! And many others I could name....
The G-d of Israel is I AM. YWVH is a Greek construct to try and name G-d. The first thing G-d charged humankind with was the NAMING of every single thing on earth to establish DOMINION over it. G-d does not have a name. Not one and not ten, and not 72. Every name that man calls G-d is a human construct. It certainly is NOT the tetragrammaton. And it ain't Yahweh or Jehova either. Yahweh/Jehova is a play off the Greek god Jove.
Sons of Jove [Zeus], yet another way for the Roman Church to name the Lord with Pantheonistic names, proving one again that the more things change, the more they stayed the same.

> These are what Israel will need.

This is downright sickening. M'Gog is the SECOND rise of the SECOND nation against the first and ONLY Nation of Israel. A repeat of history in which the outcome is now foretold.

> J.J. is saying George is Gog per the first link.
> He is saying George has set his foot on the mountains of > Israel, per the second link.
> He is saying that Gog (America's armies) will be destroyed there and they will put a flag by each body just like the scripture indicates below. Just as they mark each part of the fallen debris from the shuttle, they stake off that area. Just like they put an indicator by each body part after a bus blows up in Israel.

This is very off the mark. If US Troops are fighting side by side with IDF, and Iraq or some other unfriendly decides to send a missile at them, how does that make Bush the enemy? And if it doesn't hit IDF troops or USA troops, it will hit Gaza in which is to the East in Israel and contains the megaterrorists who have been murdering Israelis daily. Unfortunately, there are also Hebrew neighborhoods in Gaza, so Jews will die as well. In either case, yes, the Israelis will do their sacred duty and gather the parts and pieces of human remains when they are able. A conflaguration sounds like bombing and perhaps even chemical warfare, therefore, stench of death and bad air might last for some time before anyone can clean it up.

> Eze 39:8 Behold, it is come, and it is done, saith the Lord GOD; this is the day whereof I have spoken.
> 9 And they that dwell in the cities of Israel shall go forth, and shall set on fire and burn the weapons, both the shields and the bucklers, the bows and the arrows, and the handstaves, and the spears, and they shall burn them with fire seven years:
> 10 So that they shall take no wood out of the field, neither cut down any out of the forests; for they shall burn the weapons with fire: and they shall spoil those that spoiled them, and rob those that robbed them, saith the Lord GOD.
> 11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto **Gog** a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury **Gog** and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog.
> 12 And **seven months** shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land.
> 13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD.
> 14 And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search.
> 15 And the passengers that pass through the land, ***when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it,*** till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog.
> 16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.

Egypt is the ancestral home of Gog, born of the Egyptian woman, Hagar, who gave birth to the Egyptian+ Hebrew, Ishmael, who was the first of the SECOND nation which became the Assyrians. Arafat is an Egyptian. The brains behind Al Qaeda is Egyptian. Al Zawahiri and Muganyah are both Egyptian. Islamic Jihad, Fatah, Tanzim, Hamas are Egyptian fronts. Hizbullah is Syrian backed. Hizbullah attacks from Sha'aba Farms above the Golan.
EGYPT is the Land of Ham, Noah's irreverent son. This scripture is specifically speaking of Egyptian ancestry and now, in Egypt itself, it has just been discovered that they have had a weapons building program shielded deep beneath the earth for years, and it has been secret the entire time. While Saudi Arabia has been picking up the tab for Al Qaeda, Egypt has been doing a bait and switch since Sadat was murdered. Anyway, Hamongog is Gog, the SECOND nation, of Ham, (Egypt,) and comprises all the Arab Nation as constituted by the progeny of Ishmael.
This does not include the Hashemite Kingdom, though the Royal Hashemites are direct descendents of Muhammad, they are not included in the Egyptian ancestry, having existed before Ishmael. The Persians, (Iran,) are also not included in this scripture as they pre-existed Ishmael as well. So you can bring this, (Gog M'Gog,) and lay it directly on the doorsteps of Egypt and Syria.
The Ravine of the Passengers is the Dead Sea, and it is there that a great burial shall occur, and it is there that a place called Hamonah shall be named.
It has nothing, I repeat, NOTHING, to do with George Bush.
I hope you were being facetious....
26 posted on 02/15/2003 4:36:41 AM PST by Nix 2 (In G-d's time, not mine.)
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Ha-ha-ha. That's not me laughing, that's Heaven laughing, for as the Yiddish expression goes (after translation, that is), Man plans and G-d laughs. In fact, someone wrote me and told me that George Bush would have attacked Afghanistan earlier had weather conditions not delayed him until the 22nd day of Tishrei.

I can't confirm that fact yet, but it doesn't matter anyhow. The fact is that after weeks of preparation and deliberation, George Bush Jr. finally let loose on Sunday, October 7th. However, according to the Jewish calendar in Israel, it was already (just barely) Monday, 22 of Tishrei - Hoshana Rabbah - the one day of the year that G-d judges the gentile nations as well as the Jewish people.

One person tried to convince me the other day that the Teimani pronunciation of the word "Gog," is to say the "g" (gimmel in Hebrew), the same way we do when we say "George." Then, something happened to the "r" (raish in Hebrew) sound along the way, though I can't remember what. But, when he was finished, we had "Gog m'Gog" (George Bush Jr., son of George Bush Sr.).

It was a nice try, but for all we know, it is true. After all, it is unusual that the son should be president two terms later, just when another conflict in the Middle-East and Asia has quickly duplicated his own father's dilemma. And, it is even more unusual that the son should have the same name as the father, "George."

How we take subtle historical coincidences for granted, and brush them off easily only because they are not blatant enough four our liking. It's like taking an exam in school, and then getting up and going over to the examiner to complain, "Hey! I don't like this question. It doesn't indicate enough what the answer is!" You have to appreciate that point, because it could have happened during Clinton's era, but didn't, as if it was waiting for George Bush Jr. to get into the White House, something he did only after great controversy. We forgot about that one already, didn't we? >From a Torah point of view, such "suspense" is always a sign that Heaven is directly involved in the event in question, and that we, the Jewish people, are being given a chance to wake up and doteshuvah. The results, we are being told, are being made dependent upon our choice. Not that I'm saying that Al Gore would have been the better choice. Apparently there is a tradition that the Great Wall of China was also called the "Wall of Al Magog." Isn't his father's name George, also?

Previously we quoted the now well-known source that has been making the rounds since the September 11th attack:

I will show you, but not for now, for these things will only come to be at that time, some after that time, and some in the Days of KingMoshiach. "A star has gone forth from Ya'akov . . ." (Bamidbar 24:17). This teaches us that in the future, The Holy One, Blessed is He, will build Jerusalem and one star will spark within seventy pillars of fire, and seventy sparks will receive light from it in the middle of the sky. The other seventy stars will be swallowed within it. It will give off light and blaze for seventy days. At the end of the sixth day, it will become visible at the beginning of the twenty-fifth day of the sixth month. It will be gathered in at the end of seventy complete days and be visible in the city of Rome, and on that day, three great walls will fall and great hall will fall, and the power of that city will die. (Zohar, Balak, 212b)

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Ezekiel 38
18 "And it will come to pass at the same time, when Gog comes against the land of Israel," says the Lord GOD, "that My fury will show in My face. 19 For in My jealousy and in the fire of My wrath I have spoken: "Surely in that day there shall be a great earthquake in the land of Israel, 20 so that the fish of the sea, the birds of the heavens, the beasts of the field, all creeping things that creep on the earth, and all men who are on the face of the earth shall shake at My presence. The mountains shall be thrown down, the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.'


The Madrid Conference Middle East Peace Conference ... Spain
Mr. George Bush, President of the United States...
The Madrid Conference

...at the same time...

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Ezekiel 39 The second war of Gog and Magog...

The same players, the same place...

27 posted on 02/15/2003 6:59:40 PM PST by Jeremiah Jr
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