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Pentagon adviser: France 'no longer ally'
UPI ^ | 2/4/2003 | Martin Walker

Posted on 02/04/2003 2:13:58 PM PST by Mossad1967

France is no longer an ally of the United States and the NATO alliance "must develop a strategy to contain our erstwhile ally or we will not be talking about a NATO alliance" the head of the Pentagon's top advisory board said in Washington Tuesday...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: axisofweasels; france; perle; petain; vichy
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To: Mossad1967
>France is no longer an ally of the United States and the NATO alliance "must develop a strategy to contain our erstwhile ally...

How long will it take
for tin foil types to observe
that this announcment

is coming just days
after the Columbia
disaster and deaths...

61 posted on 02/04/2003 2:48:23 PM PST by theFIRMbss
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To: hobson
You always gotta be suspicious of people who are always running round talking bout their oui oui and dont ever shake their hand i suspect thats why they kiss each other because their always holding their oui oui and talking bout it?
62 posted on 02/04/2003 2:48:35 PM PST by ATOMIC_PUNK (The Fellowship of Conservatives)
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To: steveegg
I think his point with the Germans is that they are suffering from a Clintonesque lapse in government rationality, whereas France is a habitual offender that is not going to change its ways. I don't really see Germany nearly as anti-American on the whole as the frogs. Certainly their current government is not doing us any favors, but I'd hold off on judgement just yet.

France, on the other hand, is getting put on notice that the most influential advisors and think tanks are not longer afraid to call their spade a spade. If this is being made public, than the private talk must be worse.

Sayonara, Frenchie!

63 posted on 02/04/2003 2:48:56 PM PST by Steel Wolf
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To: PhiKapMom
The French are in the process of walking the plank and sawing it off!

If W can discredit France and the UN and multilateralism by simply letting them do it to themselves while at the same time he rids the world of virulent islamofascism... the mind boggles as to his legacy.
64 posted on 02/04/2003 2:49:20 PM PST by johnb838 (Bush gets it)
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To: Jimmyclyde
You left out getting whipped in the Algerian War of Independence, 1958-1962.
65 posted on 02/04/2003 2:49:26 PM PST by The Iguana
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To: Salamander
http://www.freehomepages.com/creenaught/gaulhis.htm

http://www.batnet.com/silverwheel/Gaul/gaul.html

The last link refutes the "sissy" image the modern "French" have foisted upon all true Gallic people.

In my (arrogant) opinion, France went wussy -because- the Gauls were driven out....:)


66 posted on 02/04/2003 2:50:05 PM PST by Salamander (Sal O'Mander)
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To: Maedhros; VaBthang4; 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub; Blueflag; Travis McGee; aristeides; SpookBrat
"I have long thought that there were forces in France intent on reducing the American role in the world.

THAT line by Perle is the one that should trouble anyone who reads this. It is ominous.

What lengths will France go to to accomplish this objective? With whom is France allied? And didn't they vote in communist authorities in the not so distant past?

They, and america's socialist, supposed anti-war folks, are really just supporting a fellow socialist, islamofascist, Saddam Hussein.

67 posted on 02/04/2003 2:50:56 PM PST by xzins (Babylon - you have been weighed in the balance and been found wanting.)
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To: Steel Wolf
I think his point with the Germans is that they are suffering from a Clintonesque lapse in government rationality, whereas France is a habitual offender that is not going to change its ways.

The problem with Germanic lapses in government rationality is that they tend to lead to more world wars than lapses in any other government's rationality.

68 posted on 02/04/2003 2:52:06 PM PST by steveegg
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To: johnb838
Yes, it's called strategery. But remember, Dubya is an idiot.
69 posted on 02/04/2003 2:52:23 PM PST by The Vast Right Wing (Some drink from the fountain of knowledge, the French and Germans only gargle)
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To: The Vast Right Wing
"The French they are a funny race..."
70 posted on 02/04/2003 2:53:08 PM PST by 50sDad
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To: theFIRMbss
1778 - February. France signs a treaty of alliance with the United States and the American Revolution becomes a world war.

That was the French monarchy, which was soon extinguished by the French Revolution. The current French government is the modern day descendent of the Revolution.

71 posted on 02/04/2003 2:53:14 PM PST by ExpandNATO
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To: steveegg
I don't mean in the near future--unless we'd get nuked out of existence or have something else catastrophic happen. But I think the EU will someday become the one-world government--what I think we are seeing now is just it's infancy. And I agree it is not much of a threat at the moment.

But if I'm right about it becoming the one-world government, then it will have to be able to project its power.

72 posted on 02/04/2003 2:53:57 PM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: Jimmyclyde
I was going to report your post for abuse until I realized it was all too true.

"La gloire" looks a trifle trodden upon.

Scarlet Pimpernel bump.

"They seek him here, they seek him there; those Frenchies seek him everywhere."
73 posted on 02/04/2003 2:55:30 PM PST by headsonpikes
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To: yonif
I have to live in the same building as a filthy old frog.

They are ugly,smelly, filthy mouthed,with loud shouting tantums,it's like being next to a pig stye!
74 posted on 02/04/2003 2:56:11 PM PST by wiseone
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To: The Iguana
You left out getting whipped in the Algerian War of Independence, 1958-1962.

Ahh...

Very true.

So many beatings, so little time.

75 posted on 02/04/2003 2:56:33 PM PST by Jimmyclyde
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To: Lion's Cub
I agree that if the EU wants to be the big dog, they're going to have to project its power. I suppose the "good" news is that the only institutional power projection in the EU belongs to the Brits, who also have a rather-more-recent institutional aversion to exercising its power (and a very historic aversion to kowtowing to either the Germans or the French).
76 posted on 02/04/2003 2:58:03 PM PST by steveegg
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To: Servant of the Nine
HehHeh. The Frenchmens hates us but the French womens, they likes us.
77 posted on 02/04/2003 2:58:07 PM PST by johnb838 (Bush gets it)
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To: Lion's Cub
Someday, it may even be dominant.

The only way the EU could amass a effective military, would be to cut social spending, experience a huge economic wind fall and most importantly, they would have to be totally unified in body and mind.

I do not see this happening in my future.

78 posted on 02/04/2003 3:00:13 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: glock rocks; Karl B
aucuns suprises. Il était venu pendant quelque temps.
79 posted on 02/04/2003 3:00:19 PM PST by Madcelt ("A liberal is a man who will give away everything he doesn't own.")
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To: Jimmyclyde
So many beatings, so little time.

Of course, that needs to be followed with, "The beatings will continue until morale improves."

80 posted on 02/04/2003 3:00:24 PM PST by steveegg
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