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Pentagon adviser: France 'no longer ally'
UPI ^ | 2/4/2003 | Martin Walker

Posted on 02/04/2003 2:13:58 PM PST by Mossad1967

France is no longer an ally of the United States and the NATO alliance "must develop a strategy to contain our erstwhile ally or we will not be talking about a NATO alliance" the head of the Pentagon's top advisory board said in Washington Tuesday...

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: axisofweasels; france; perle; petain; vichy
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To: DeFault User
Precisely.

The blood is strong.


There's that whole "French & Indian War" thing, too....;)

( hey...how come nobody's mentioned Canada yet? )

101 posted on 02/04/2003 3:11:49 PM PST by Salamander (Sal O'Mander)
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To: MadIvan
Blimey. And I thought our historical dislike of the French was not something that could be duplicated.

The French have been your historic enemies for the past nine hundred years, ever since the Normans got run out of Normandy by the French kings. After all, they weren't Franks now, were they?

Besides, the Normans were smart enough to conquer an island fortress of a nation.

This interview will keep the lights on in Paris. It comes from Richard Perle. The French understand that he has great influence in the Administration, and will come to believe that it reflects Administration thinking and a potential shift in American grand strategy.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

102 posted on 02/04/2003 3:12:45 PM PST by section9 (The girl in the picture is Major Motoko Kusanagi from "Ghost In the Shell". Any questions?)
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To: stilts
One worthy addition. The Mexican holiday of Cinco de Mayo celebrates the triumphant victory of a group of Mexican farmers armed with sticks and tools over a professional and well armed French troops.

(Not to be confused with Mexican Independence Day: September 16.)

Damn, here I thought Cinco De Mayo was to celebrate Corona's and Carne Asada!

103 posted on 02/04/2003 3:14:12 PM PST by The Vast Right Wing (Some drink from the fountain of knowledge, the French and Germans only gargle)
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To: Jimmyclyde
"You TOO can conquer France!"

Might not qualify as an "extreme vacation adventure", but, is there a brochure?

104 posted on 02/04/2003 3:14:43 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: John H K
Apparently, not *all* the Celts fled Gaul.
Some stayed and improved the Frankish stock....:))
106 posted on 02/04/2003 3:15:36 PM PST by Salamander (Sal O'Mander)
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To: hellinahandcart
FR will be invaded by hordes of smelly French trolls whining about the cowboy in the White House

[locking wine cabinet, checking for full can of Fromage Away air freshener, settin' out pointy toed cowboy boots]

107 posted on 02/04/2003 3:16:17 PM PST by Stultis
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To: jaime1959
So says the extremist chicken hawk, Richard Perle. I guess the bellicose draft evaders who sat Vietnam want us to take on France next?

Oh, and if a civilian who had never served in the Great War had warned about German Rearmament in say, 1937, would that have made him a "chickenhawk", too?

The whole "chickenhawk" line of argument is a shabby attempt by liberals to silence the debate. It doesn't sell here. Why don't you take it to another site where people are stupid enough to buy into it? Like DU, for instance.

Be Seeing You,

Chris

108 posted on 02/04/2003 3:16:41 PM PST by section9 (The girl in the picture is Major Motoko Kusanagi from "Ghost In the Shell". Any questions?)
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To: r9etb
Your #93 is an interesting observation and food for thought.
109 posted on 02/04/2003 3:19:40 PM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: The Vast Right Wing
As long as you ain't celebrating with stinky cheese and wine you're right on track.
111 posted on 02/04/2003 3:20:16 PM PST by stilts
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To: livius
I have to state, "who gives a rat's ass".
112 posted on 02/04/2003 3:21:17 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Salamander
In my (arrogant) opinion, France went wussy -because- the Gauls were driven out....:)

They weren't quite driven out. The Bretons speak a Celtic language and are descended from Gauls.

113 posted on 02/04/2003 3:21:26 PM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: wirestripper
Someday, it may even be dominant. I do not see this happening in my future.

I agree. Europe is wedded to a failed economic model. It's no coincidence that American leads the world both in freedom and military strength.

I'm more concerned they are on the verge of becoming a hybrid Eurosocialist-Islamist state, bearing the worst aspects of both.

I wonder if perhaps someone from saddam, al qaeda 'n friendz got on the phone to Chirac and Schroeder and gave them a clear warning. France and Germany must be much more infested with murderous fanatics than we. They are the weak horses...it seems likely to me they would capitulate to such threats. They are an obvious target for influencing US action...but that influence is history.

114 posted on 02/04/2003 3:22:18 PM PST by Monti Cello
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To: Lion's Cub
The EU could not even win "Junkyard Wars" let alone be dominant.
115 posted on 02/04/2003 3:26:27 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: Mossad1967
Forget the French reaction, we know what that will be (a muttered "merde" under their breath and some indignant diplomatic mumbling). But can you imagine how many sphincters are tightening at our own State Department reading this?

Expect our State Department internationalist weenies to begin attempting damage control on this, post-haste. The fact that Perle's pretty much right is beyond the point--at State, we must be nice to everyone!

}:-)4
116 posted on 02/04/2003 3:28:48 PM PST by Moose4
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To: ATOMIC_PUNK
The French are like a good croissant, soft and flakey...MUD
117 posted on 02/04/2003 3:29:58 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (STOOOOPID Lib'rals, I'm a FReeper and I'm Here To Help!!!)
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To: Mudboy Slim; xzins
I'm listening to Chirac right now on C-SPAN Radio, talking after his meeting with Blair. He's actually complaining that the atmosphere of the meeting was cordial!
118 posted on 02/04/2003 3:31:23 PM PST by aristeides
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To: Humidston
You are getting the truth. Bubba no longer controls the White House, so you don't have to read between the sheets...er...I mean lines.
119 posted on 02/04/2003 3:31:37 PM PST by conservativecorner
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To: aristeides
Chirac is bettin' on the WRONG Horse...MUD
120 posted on 02/04/2003 3:33:15 PM PST by Mudboy Slim (RE-Impeach the Butcher of Waco Children...MUD)
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