The Way We Tax A 50-State Report

THE GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE PROJECT ^ | 2/03 | KATHERINE BARRETT & RICHARD GREENE,

[GailA]

I'm sure this is an UNBIASED report (wink, wink)

This is a LONG report with graphs, and links to individual states.

[xzins]

ONE tax for the nation.....a sales tax.

ONE tax for the state.....a sales tax.

ONE tax for the locality.....a sales tax.


All of these can be collected at ONE time with NO PAPERWORK on the part of the person making a purchase at a cash register.

NRST ... the only fair tax system.

[Huck]

I would support a repeal of 16th, an amendment banning income tax, and a move to a flat consumption tax

[xzins]

You and me both.

And one of the deadliest enemies would be H&R Block and their ilk and a legion of accountants and tax lawyers.

Where will the legislative courage come from?

[GailA]

Me too. You can see how UNBIASED the report is TN tax system among WORST in the Nation...we don't have a state income tax..Texas is bad too..NO income tax. TN TAX SYSTEM among WORST in Nation

[Blood of Tyrants]

That is the worst piece of pro-income tax propaganda I have ever read. For example, the author throws out the following

sales tax receipts have not been hit nearly as hard as income tax revenues. But the problem with the sales tax is that its base has not moved forward with the times. “Nearly every state has a defective sales tax in terms of dealing with the economy of the 21st century,”

In one sentence he admits that a sales tax is much more stable than an income tax and in the next he derides it as being "defective" and "not moving with the times". By which he obviously means that we have refused to become Marxists!

How DARE we refuse to implement an income tax like the rest of the lemmings!

[Blood of Tyrants]

It really burns my @$$ when they call the sales tax "unreliable" when in fact thay KNOW that the income tax is FAR more unreliable!

[HitmanLV]

My own beloved Nevada ranks poorly - one star each for Adequacy of revenue, Fairness to taxpayers, & Management of system. We have no income tax here and most other taxes are managable.

They reluctantly note: "One of seven states without any tax on income, including income from dividends; property tax burden among the lowest in the country; fastest growing state in the country; population has increased tenfold since 1960."

I guess all those droves of people are deliberatly coming to a state that treats them profoundly unfairly in taxation!

[GailA]

Neveda like Texas and Tennessee are INCOME TAX FREE which is why they ranked POORLY in this pro-income tax study.

[lodwick]

consumption tax bttt

[isthisnickcool]

The "report" says that Texas has no corporate income tax. Well, that's essentially what the "franchise" tax is since it's based on a percentage of "net taxable capital" or "surplus". It is true, as they say, that this can be circumvented by simply using a linited partnership or adding one to mix.

So, they may call it a "franchise tax" in Texas but it is a corporate incomen tax.

I LOVE THIS! Simple and it will fit on a tee shirt:

ONE tax for the nation.....a sales tax.

ONE tax for the state.....a sales tax.

ONE tax for the locality.....a sales tax.

[Taxman]

Good find, good post, Gail.

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[Taxman]

Exactly correct, my FRiend.

[mpreston]

Definitely pro-tax. These people are idiots. From the Colorado section:

"For the past decade, a constitutional amendment has crippled Colorado's representative government when it comes to fiscal issues. Dubbed TABOR , for the Taxpayer's Bill of Rights , it strangled officials' ability to raise taxes by adding to the state's constitution the requirement that voter approval be obtained for any tax increase.
TABOR also limits annual revenue growth to the sum of inflation and population increase. Any revenues collected beyond that ceiling must be refunded to the state's residents. What if the treasury is starved for cash? Too bad. The voters have to grant permission for the government to retain the money. This was tried. It failed. (Interestingly, TABOR also applies to local governments, and they?ve been successful in the majority of their attempts to retain extra funds.)"

In the first sentence they say TABOR is bad, then they say it works. I say it works. TABOR hasn't crippled representative government, it has just restrained the spending habits. Sure we have a deficit. I'd rather we have a deficit and have to cut programs, like businesses have to in a recession, than insulate government from economic cycles by raising taxes.

- Mark

[Forgiven_Sinner]

I read the whole article and couldn't believe how pro-tax and out of touch it was with reality, ie voters paying taxes. One of their charming misbeliefs was "state governments should never cut taxes during temporary revenue increases". Why not?

Another one was, "voters never accept a cut in services". I'm not aware of that! For example, wouldn't Tenn. be balanced if they cut back on Tenn Care? Has anyone proposed that? Say an income test?

The article reads as if it were written by a pro-tax, pro-big government pork spending bureaucrat.

[Blood of Tyrants]

To the left, anything that checks ulimited government spending is bad.

[Taxman]

And, if I am not mistaken, Mark, Colorado is in the best financial condition of any state government in the US, except of course, Alaska and Wyoming, which have substantial mineral resource revenues.

Am I wrong about the state of Colorado's finances?

[Taxman]

See post #12.

[Hermann the Cherusker]

So ... we'd pay about 40% in sales tax when we go to the store. That sure sounds like a recipe for a black market.

[Henrietta]

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you all know these folks... they are the ones that keep trying to raise your taxes!