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To: WhiskeyPapa
But you agree that Lincoln's position was more advanced than Douglas's, right?

Which position? He took many contradictory ones during those debates.

Good for the voters of Illinois, right?

It all depends on which position. As a political leader for illinois independent of their issues, I do think Douglas was the better choice on the grounds that he was not a war mongering tyrant.

189 posted on 02/06/2003 9:46:03 AM PST by GOPcapitalist
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To: GOPcapitalist
"I do think Douglas was the better choice on the grounds that he was not a war mongering tyrant."

Are you from Hollywood?

190 posted on 02/06/2003 9:49:30 AM PST by Sam's Army
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To: GOPcapitalist
As a political leader for illinois independent of their issues, I do think Douglas was the better choice on the grounds that he was not a war mongering tyrant.

You condemn Lincoln for his views on the races and you believe Douglas was the better choice? His views on the races make Lincoln look like a champion of diversity. His proposed 13th Amendment stripped Congress of any power to regulate slavery in the territories, although it would have allowed states to decide if they would be slave or not. His proposed 14th Amendment would have denied blacks the right to vote or hold office, and would have required that the government obtain land in Africa for the purpose of sending any black person a state wished to see sent there, at government expense. In other words, the very forced emigration you claim Lincoln supported. It would have also prevented Congress from ever passing any laws limiting slavery where they had jurisdiction or any amendment that limited slavery in any way.

And in the end, once the south initiated the war, Douglas was a strong supporter of the administration and its war aims to the point of giving up his life for it. So I fail to see where Douglas would have been better. But I suppose any 'racist' is acceptable to you, so long as it isn't Lincoln and any 'tyrant' is acceptable to you so long as it isn't Lincoln.

216 posted on 02/06/2003 11:14:04 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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