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To: ganeshpuri89
"a military version of the photo showed a more prominent “jagged edge” as well as a heavier heat plume trailing from the left wing."

That would be the original .bmp. All the images posted are jpgs, with the artifacts that go with the handling. There's a lot that can be done , but it's all very tedious. The construction I posted above is very close. Locations, sizes, angles can be changed a few %, but it will be essentially the same.

As far as the telescope they used goes, I'm not sure which one they used and what wavelength they use to obtain it. They have the active optics to correct aberations from atmospheric effects, but this is close in. The tracking will be faster and so will the changes in atmospheric refraction they have to correct for. They may not want anyone to know how well they do yet, w/o having them do the work.

"where does the radar data indicating the object separating from the orbiter originate"

I don't know.

1,303 posted on 02/11/2003 11:32:12 AM PST by spunkets
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To: spunkets
The way I view the USAF pic is this:

It confirms the left wing is going, and won't last for very much longer.

As to the details of the process, we just cannot see that. XBob's statement upon initial release of the photo that "the leading edge is now the MLG compartment" is as good of a assessment that has been made.

The questions and debate are all in the sequence of events prior to the picture. Therefore, little can be gained from analysis of this pic, other than the state of the wing at the time.

NASA is likely in the same boat with this image, no matter what the resolution is that they have.

1,304 posted on 02/11/2003 12:03:11 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: spunkets
To: XBob

7:52 a.m. CST: Three left main landing gear brakeline temperatures show an unusual rise. "This was the first occurrence of a significant thermal event in the left wheel well," Dittemore said. Engineers do not believe the left wheel well was breached, but rather that hot gasses were somehow finding a flow path within the wing to reach the wheel well.

7:53 a.m. CST: A fourth left brakeline strut temperature measurement rose significantly -- about 30-40 deg. in 5 min.

7:54 a.m. CST: With the orbiter over eastern California and western Nevada, the mid-fuselage mold line where the left wing meets the fuselage showed an unusual temperature rise. The 60F rise over 5 min. was not dramatic, but showed that something was heating the wing fuselage interface area at this time. Wing leading edge and belly temperatures were over 2,000F. While the outside fuselage wall was heating, the inside wall remained cool as normal.

7:55 a.m. CST: A fifth left main gear temperature sensor showed an unusual rise.

7:55.53 a.m. CST: A video image taken with this time stamp of Columbia showed a sizable brightly glowing object separate from the shuttle and fall back into it's wake. The object was too large to be a tile. These things had been seen before. No, it was much bigger than a tile. It could very well be the left side landing gear door. The kid who shot the video could be heard saying, "Did you see that?" "What was that?" (the object was bright enough to illuminate the contrail in the darkness.) It appeared to be rectangular, IMO.

7:57 a.m. CST: As Columbia was passing over Arizona and New Mexico, the orbiter's upper and lower left wing temperature sensors failed, probably indicating their lines had been cut. The orbiter was also rolling back to the left into about a 75-deg. left bank angle, again to dissipate energy and for navigation and guidance toward Runway 33 at Kennedy, then about 1,800 mi. away.

757:00 a.m. CST USAF photo is taken by telescope at the Starfire Range. It shows plasma burning and streaming debris from the left wing on the inboard leading edge going back over the wing resulting in a contrail.

7:58 a.m. CST: Still over New Mexico, the elevons began to move to adjust orbiter roll axis trim, indicating an increase in drag on the left side of the vehicle. That could be indicative of "rough tile or missing tile but we are not sure," Dittemore said. At the same time, the elevons were reacting to increased drag on the left side of the vehicle, the left main landing gear tire pressures and wheel temperature measurements failed. This was indicative of a loss of the sensor, not the explosion or failure of the left main gear tires, Dittemore believes. The sensors were lost in a staggered fashion.

7:59 a.m. CST: Additional elevon motion is commanded by the flight control system to counteract right side drag. The drag was trying to roll the vehicle to the left, while the flight control system was commanding the elevons to roll it back to the right. But the rate of left roll was beginning to overpower the elevons, so the control system fired two 870-lb. thrust right yaw thrusters to help maintain the proper flight path angle. The firing lasted 1.5 sec. and, along with the tire pressure data and elevon data, would have been noted by the pilots.

At about this time, the pilots made a short transmission that was clipped and essentially unintelligible

In Mission Control, astronaut Marine Lt. Col. Charles Hobaugh, the spacecraft communicator on reentry flight director Leroy Cain's team, radioed "Columbia we see your tire pressure [telemetry[ messages and we did not copy your last transmission."

One of the pilots then radioed "Roger," but appeared to be cut off in mid transmission by static. For a moment there was additional static and sounds similar to an open microphone on Columbia but no transmissions from the crew.

All data from the orbiter then stopped and the position plot display in Mission Control froze over Texas, although an additional 30 sec. of poor data may have been captured.

Controllers in Mission Control thought they were experiencing an unusual but non-critical data drop out. But they had also taken notice of the unusual buildup of sensor telemetry in the preceding few minutes.

About 3 min. after all data flow stopped, Hobaugh in mission control began transmitting in the blind to Columbia on the UHF backup radio system. "Columbia, Houston, UHF comm. check" he repeated every 15-30 sec., but to no avail. In central Texas, thousands of people at that moment were observing the orbiter break up at Mach 18.3 and 207,000 ft.

Milt Heflin, Chief of the Flight Director's office said he looked at the frozen data plots. "I and others stared at that for a long time because the tracking ended over Texas. It just stopped.

1231 posted on 02/10/2003 9:23 PM CST by wirestripper [ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1217 | View Replies | Report Abuse ]

I plugged the USAF photo into the timeline I posted earlier. We have to assume the times are approximate, but within seconds due to timekeeping discrepencies that always exist.

1,305 posted on 02/11/2003 12:32:05 PM PST by Cold Heat
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To: spunkets; ganeshpuri89
1303 - "As far as the telescope they used goes, I'm not sure which one they used"

see 1538
1,545 posted on 02/13/2003 6:24:55 AM PST by XBob
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