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Hamza gloats over shuttle - (HEAVY JIHAD BARF ALERT)
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| 3 Feb, 2003
| NICK PARKER
Posted on 02/03/2003 10:00:14 PM PST by Happy2BMe
The Muslim fanatic called the Columbia crew thugs of space who deserved to die.
He denounced the team made up of Americans, an Israeli and an Indian-born Hindu as a trinity of evil punished by Allah.
The 45-year-old cleric said they were criminals bent on boosting military satellite technology so America could dominate the world.
He claimed it was a sign from God that debris rained down on a Texas town named Palestine.
TOPICS: Front Page News
KEYWORDS: gloat; islam; jihad; shuttle; terrorism
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To: Happy2BMe
If it means anything, I went to CAIR's website and searched for Challenger and shuttle and came up with nothing. Once again, their silence is deafening.
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posted on
02/04/2003 3:27:10 AM PST
by
Brytani
To: Brytani
" Once again, their silence is deafening." Agree - their silence is an omission of condemnation against America.
Nothing has changed.
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posted on
02/04/2003 5:27:50 AM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
To: Happy2BMe
All he's doing is voicing the opinion of a large portion of Muslims worldwide.
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posted on
02/04/2003 5:32:51 AM PST
by
Guillermo
(Sic 'Em)
To: Bobby777
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posted on
02/04/2003 5:33:07 AM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
To: Happy2BMe
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posted on
02/04/2003 6:32:28 AM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
To: Happy2BMe
As a demonstration of Islamic contributions to space science I give you Sheik Abdul Aziz Bin-Baz (as spelled in British papers) - also spelled Sheik Abdel-Aziz Ibn Baaz (as in the NY Times), the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia and the head of the Saudi Council of Ulema, until his death in May 1999.
Back in 1974 he published a booklet in Arabic, titled The Mobility of the Sun and Moon and the Immobility of the Earth, in which, relying on a verse from the Koran, he stated: "The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheist deserving of punishment."
In 1993 the same Shiek, as the highest religious authority of Saudi Arabia (and presumably the world), issued a fatwa explicitly declaring that anyone suggesting that the earth was not flat was a blasphemer and must be punished.
Apart from this Sheik, the Islamic Calendar is pretty fair evidence of the meagre astronomical understanding of the Moslems. It is a lunar calendar - but unlike the Jewish or Chinese calendars it makes no effort to reconcile itself to the solar year - so the year is about 356 days long, each date occurring approximately nine days earlier than in the year before so that, for example, the month of Ramidan churns around the seasons making a complete cycle in about 19 years. Worse than that, although both the Jews and Chinese were able many centuries ago to calculate the lunar cycles with precision, the Islamic date will not be set in advance by mathematical calculation, instead the beginning of the month commences with the actual eyewitness viewing of the first crescent of the moon, without regard to astronomic predictions, and there continue to be lively arguments almost every year among Moslems about whether the first day of the month begins when that crescent is visible in Baghdad or Mecca or Cairo (considering the motion of the moon, it occasionally happens that the moon is not yet lit in its first crescent until after it passes over part of the Arab world, or one of those cities might have bad weather), with the result that, every now and then, those calendars that were printed in advance are put in the wrong.
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posted on
02/04/2003 11:05:36 AM PST
by
DonQ
To: DonQ
" The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an atheist deserving of punishment." Aha! So Columbus was WRONG after all these years.
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posted on
02/04/2003 11:16:07 AM PST
by
Happy2BMe
(It's All About You - It's All About Me - It's All About Being Free!)
To: Brytani
With a Jew and Hindu on board, you wanted condolences from the crackpots at CAIR. Lower your expectations.
To: Happy2BMe
While I completely reject the rantings of this nutjob, I do want to ask one question. Ilan Ramon was listed as a "payload specialist." What part of the "payload" did Mr. Ramon specialize in? Is it possible we released a satellite into orbit for the Israeli's?
(PS I would support that mission objective...)
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posted on
02/04/2003 3:27:14 PM PST
by
ez
("If this is not evil, then evil has no meaning." - GWB)
To: swarthyguy
I didn't expect it, not after September 11 when the only thing CAIR cared about was potential attacks against muslims in the US.
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posted on
02/04/2003 5:12:41 PM PST
by
Brytani
To: Brytani
Well, i was wrong. Here's what they on....
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), a Washington-based Islamic civil rights and advocacy group, today offered condolences to the families and loved ones of those who died Saturday in the loss of shuttle Columbia.
In a statement, CAIR said:
"We offer sincere condolences for this tragic loss and suggest that the best way to honor the memory of those who died is to examine what went wrong, fix the problem and then carry on with America's program of space exploration."
AMERICAN MUSLIM NEWS BRIEF | 2/4/2003
(Nin-Hai Tseng, Florida Times Union) - They held their arms out and closed their eyes in silent prayer just as the prophet Muhammad had taught them.
Spiritual leader Imam Zaid Malik of Jacksonville's Islamic Center of Northeast Florida yesterday afternoon led about 80 Al-Furqan Academy students in a short prayer, honoring the men and women who lost their lives in the Columbia space shuttle accident.
"The seven-member Columbia gave their lives in pursuit of endeavors that benefit all of humanity," Malik said, standing inside the center's mosque. "Their death is a tremendous loss for the human family."
The children, ranging from kindergartners to sixth-graders, looked up as Malik spoke.
Malik encouraged the students and members of the center to join "our fellow Americans" in mourning. The youths, he said, should be inspired by the bravery set by those who died in Saturday's accident...
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online/stories/020403/met_11654049.shtml
To: river rat
Another freeper insulting Islam (of course, similar insults of Christianity would be considered "bigotry" right?). Did you even read the article? This guy was condemned by every key Muslim leader in Britain. He was kicked out his mosque.
To: Guillermo
Errr....he was condemend by every key Muslim leader in Britain. Of course, don't let the facts confuse you.
To: Bobby777
It's nice to see a man of 45 years who has retained his boyish good looks.
To: Happy2BMe
I pose this question to Freepers and security forces in Britain:
Have you had enough?
To: Austin Willard Wright
He was kicked out by the police.
To: Rome2000
I have a feeling will be seeing a lot more of him in the future.I believe in free speach, but this exceeds the limit. It is bordering on inciting to riot, and there must be something a civilized society can do to rid itself of vermin like this. Must society be so perverse as to support this scum with protection and services? Isn't there anything that can be done to expell him? Ideas?
To: Austin Willard Wright
I said a "large portion" of Muslims "worldwide".
I didn't say "all Muslims everywhere, especially in Britian".
Don't let my own words get in the way of how you interpret them, Willard.
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posted on
02/04/2003 7:22:59 PM PST
by
Guillermo
(Sic 'Em)
To: Man of the Right
The article doesn't say that. Please provide your source. It does have a lot of information, however, from angry Muslims who want to kick him out of the country.
To: Man of the Right
"Security forces" had enough? According to your theory (not supported) he was "banned" from the mosque by security forces not his parishioners right? You can't have it both ways.
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