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He makes many good points but fails to mention those of us 30-something women with successfull careers, financial stability, education, better than decent looks, and no guy to snuggle (or other) with on a cold night.

I'm not steeped in feminism. I listen to it with disdain, hearing it daily as I do from my much younger coworkers. But they have dates come Friday. They may screw up those dates with their none too subtle Gandylike views, but they do have dates.

So the good guys end up choosing those with aspirations to Nannydom and Tupperware parties. Could it be that they ARE afraid of those with more than two brain cells to rub together? And yes, I am donning the Nanny flame suit as I write this? (I actually like Nannies. I've found them very convenient, hard working, dependable.....)

1 posted on 02/03/2003 6:13:20 PM PST by softengine
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As a ring of gold in a swine's snout,
So is a beautiful woman who lacks discretion.
292 posted on 02/04/2003 6:18:26 PM PST by gitmo ("The course of this conflict is not known, yet its outcome is certain." GWB)
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HARD ON THE EYES

http://www.noapologiespress.com/editorial/GodSpake/Rants/gsrant5.html

A counterpoint to Vox Day's "Spiting Their Pretty Faces" where women like Ann Coulter are referred to "schlong-dangling dudes with issues" and includes the "ugly meter" for this writer's position that conservative women are ugly.... my oh my, what's a girl to do? I guess some liberal males are as unhappy with successful women as are some conservative males.

It does appear to me there will be unhappy boys in either camp when it comes to successful women so best take the route that suits her and the best love will happen when she meets up with a male secure in his own success with enough confidence to appreciate hers. I know they are out there as I found one :-)

297 posted on 02/04/2003 11:08:30 PM PST by hotpotato
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To: softengine; rintense; cyborg; apackof2; unspun
The four of you are on the right track, I commend each of you for your strong moral stance and your belief in the values which make a strong and loving family.

I am going to try to find time in the next couple of days to share an interesting story here.

unspun, obviously my comments above were for the women, but I noticed in another thread you had a tag line about the Proverb's 31 woman...Is that not the anthisis to the Prov. 6 woman...?

302 posted on 02/04/2003 11:39:36 PM PST by Dr. Zoo (quite a comparison...)
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this is crap. i have been married almost 18 years, have 3 kids. i am a lawyer, so is my husband. we were in law school at the same time, took the bar together etc. All of our social set is similarly situated, professionals married to other professionals. i am 46 years old and got married at age 29. i don't see what all the brouhaha is. i don't really know any single women.
316 posted on 02/05/2003 10:11:58 AM PST by xsmommy
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Acutally my biggest problem with women is that so many aren't serious about anything other than having a relationship. Obviously people who devote themsleves to life in the office aren't fun to be around, but it is good for a person to have interests outside making kissy face.
318 posted on 02/05/2003 10:26:45 AM PST by MattAMiller
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From an August 2002 story in USA Today, about a study of 1990 Census data:

A marriage forecast based on 1990's Census data suggests that, while more-educated women were less likely to marry a half-century ago, modern-day college grads are more likely to marry than their less-educated peers.

"The marriage market is changing," says sociologist Joshua Goldstein of Princeton University, who co-authored the forecast.

The report, noted in a recent American Sociological Association journal, says that about 90% of all women born in 1950 eventually married, regardless of their education. But for women born in 1960, a split has emerged where about 94% of female college graduates marry, compared with 89% of those women with less education. "Marriage is becoming a luxury good," says sociologist Frank Furstenberg of the University of Pennsylvania.

His research suggests that marriage partners with more education are better able to pay for services, such as child care, that ease some of the strain on marriage.

.... 7 of 10 women with high-income corporate careers and 8 of 10 high-income entrepreneurial women were married with children by age 40, while about 8 of 10 men of the same status were too.

According to this data, the vast majority of college educated women haven't gotten the memo about there not being enough men to marry. Ninety-four percent marry indicating the man shortage doesn't seem to be a huge hurdle for them.

319 posted on 02/05/2003 10:41:28 AM PST by Lorianne
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Dear softengine,

Everything before 40 is just practice:) Trust me:):)

338 posted on 02/05/2003 4:49:19 PM PST by BobS
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The fact that you, in a snide way, put down child care--in the person of nannys, while also putting down men--who avoid you--proves the author's points.

You are indeed so steeped in feminist assumptions you don't even know it--and that's a feminist of the most bitter kind. You don't have to be a liberal pro-abortion democrat admirer of Betty Friedan to be a feminist, as your remarks clearly illustrate.

The kind of lady I appreciate wouldn't think of mocking as inferior other women who actually like caring for children.
351 posted on 02/06/2003 10:03:28 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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