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Spiting their pretty faces
World Net Daily ^ | February 3, 2003 | Vox Day

Posted on 02/03/2003 6:13:20 PM PST by softengine

A recent story floating around the variety section of a newspaper I still read occasionally reminded me of a conversation I had with a college girlfriend about six months ago. She's a pretty woman – slender, petite, well-educated and intelligent. She has an excellent, high-paying job and even owns her own house.

She is, in short, the epitome of feminist success. And yet, she is profoundly disappointed with her life. She has, in her own words, continued to stumble upwards while somehow missing out on the only thing she truly wanted – a husband and a family.

Nor is she alone, in anecdotal or statistical terms. Not only do the majority of women who were in our college social circle remain unmarried, but according Barbara Dafoe Whitehead, author of "Why There Are No Good Men Left: The Romantic Plight of the New Single Woman," a 30-something woman is three times more likely to be unmarried than her 1970's counterpart. While some might argue that this is a good thing, most demographics experts would disagree, as would, it appears, an awful lot of those 30-something single women.

While Whitehead correctly identifies the general problem, she is as clueless as the next feminist as to how to go about solving it. Instead of recommending that individuals change the one thing within their power – namely, their behavior – she advocates altering the entire system of courtship. Given this typically fascistic feminist approach, I am, of course, shocked that her six 30-something daughters and nieces all remain available.

But, as I told my friend, the root of the problem is that the kind of man she wants is precisely the man who is smart enough to stay away from her. Smart, educated women aren't willing to date down on the social scale, so the higher they rise, the more they cut down on their available pool of men. Furthermore, the smarter a man is, the more he is likely to realize that being romantically involved with an intelligent, educated, upper-middle-class American woman steeped in 20 years of feminist indoctrination is about as desirable as being flayed alive and rolled in salt.

Consider the premarital professions of the women in my social circle, all of whom are now stay-at-home moms happily married to intelligent, successful men: Farmgirl. Nanny. Teacher. Office manager. Nanny. Pipeline worker. Professional student. Church volunteer. That's eight quality men who won't be marrying a high-powered career girl right there.

The advice I gave my friend was succinct: In any given dating situation, think about what your instincts are telling you – then do the opposite. It's like football … if the run is getting stuffed, then throw the darn ball.

So, in the unlikely event there happens to be a 30-something single woman reading this, here are a few pointers which might be helpful while you wait for Ms. Dafoe Whitehead and company to change the dating culture:

1. Your rights are delineated in the Constitution. Everything else is a privilege.

2. Your family has to put up with you. For everyone else, it's optional.

3. Southern belles always get what they want. Watch and learn, grasshopper.

4. Sex as an incentive is fair enough. Using its deprivation as a punishment will backfire hideously.

5. Mocking your man in public creates a no-win situation. He can either slice and dice you verbally, which is no fun for you, or keep his mouth shut and look like an idiot. In the case of the latter, it doesn't mean that you've won, or that he's forgotten.

6. Men love happy women. Act happy and you may discover how to be happy.

7. If there's a doubt, choose the most optimistic interpretation. That's what he meant.

8. Honey, honey, honey – a thousand times honey. Never vinegar.

9. Conflict is not passion. It isn't any fun, either.

10. Limit yourself to five complaints and demands a day. If you're not counting, you're over the limit.

11. If no one ever taught you the traditional arts, find an older woman to be your mentor.

12. Your feelings and objectively verifiable facts may be different. Learn to distinguish between them.

Now, I'm not saying that applying these principles to your dating scene will turn frogs into princes or anything, but they will get you in the game. And if all else fails, just tell your next first date that you're thinking of quitting your job and returning to your former career as an aerobics instructor. He'll be intrigued, trust me.


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To: Lorianne
so who the heck are they talking about?
322 posted on 02/05/2003 10:49:50 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: xsmommy
Beats me. I contend the women they dredge up for these Chicken Little excercises are ultra-picky whiners. I call them tire-kickers. I know tire-kickers of both sexes. They share the same traits, not only are they ultra-picky they tend to be extremely indecisive about many things, that's why they can't find anyone. (I know one 50 year old guy who is always whining that he can't find anyone. He has a pages long list of criteria for women. It's good to have standards but geez. This same man spent one year researching which toaster oven to buy !)

Of course they always blame other things.

Anyone who wants to be married can be married in one year flat. What we're talking about here is a small minority of people who can't make up their minds or don't really want to be married. The vast majority of heterosexual people marry.
323 posted on 02/05/2003 11:40:39 AM PST by Lorianne
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To: xsmommy
so who the heck are they talking about?

A few whiners that would be whining regardless of their degrees or marriage. They have a few anecdotes and think that makes a trend. My experience is close to yours and Lorianne's. Except that I do know some professionals in their 30's that are single but they are that way and like it. I also know a few professionals that married for the 1st time in the 30's and started their families. But I don't know any female that is not married and complaining about not being married. Not one.

324 posted on 02/05/2003 11:52:22 AM PST by hotpotato
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To: Lorianne
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Spiting their pretty faces, Lorianne wrote: Beats me. I contend the women they dredge up for these Chicken Little excercises are ultra-picky whiners. I call them tire-kickers. I know tire-kickers of both sexes. They share the same traits, not only are they ultra-picky they tend to be extremely indecisive about many things,

I agree (though I've only known males in this category).

Of course they always blame other things.

Or other people. Easier to do that than consider the hard reality and maybe having to make some changes. I think a few are happy to remain single but like to complain. Or are gay and don't want to explain that. I've known that type, too.

325 posted on 02/05/2003 12:10:35 PM PST by hotpotato
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To: Lorianne
I'm not trying to muzzle her father. I'm trying to say women are smart enough to figure out what is "most important" to them...I call ANYONE on the carpet who believes intelligent adult women need to be told what to do and what is MOST important in their own lives.

In the context of the original posting, it was clear that the daughter in question was not yet an adult. I'm the father of three daughters (none adult yet). I'm going to be voicing my opinions to them on a number of subjects. It's one of the rights of fatherhood. They can listen or not.

It doesn't matter if they're sons or daughters, child or adult -- parents tell their kids their opinions, and always have. I'm in my late 40s and my mother still tells me what I should do

326 posted on 02/05/2003 12:33:20 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (To see the ultimate evil, visit the Democrat Party)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Oh sure, parents give unsolicited advice to their kids all the time. But neither parents nor feminists nor anyone else can live a person's life for them. Ultimately the person has to make the decision what is most important. And ultimately each person is going to make their own mistakes.

I just find it insulting to women for ANYONE to in effect say to women: _____ is most important to you. It presumes the woman can't think for herself. Feminists are just as guilty of this as others.
327 posted on 02/05/2003 1:03:36 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Just as I am unable to fathom what I did to inspire your aggression as displayed in your original post to me, I do not know why you continue to harangue me.

Perhaps if I promise not to post any more articles that may displease you, you will cease and desist.
328 posted on 02/05/2003 1:52:17 PM PST by softengine
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To: softengine
I'm not being agressive. I'm being assertive. You have no authority by which to state what is MOST important in a woman's life. Ditto for feminists or anyone else presuming to dictate what how women should organize and prioritize your their life. That's all, it's not personal towards you, lots of people do it, including as I said many feminists.

I just get peeved with what I see as an underlying presumption that women need someone to tell them what's important or what should be important to them. The presumption seems to be women can't use their brains independently so various groups have to have an ideological tug-of-war over who will get to young women first and brainwash them.
329 posted on 02/05/2003 2:22:24 PM PST by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Day sounds like he's got one major chip on his shoulder. I have a friend that also tries to blame the high-powered professional woman and usually refers to them as "the bitches." He gets really p'o'd when women talk about no good men but he says the same thing about successful, available women "They're all bitches!" He doesn't see the parallel and only gets more p'o'd if I try to point it out to him. He's in his late 40's, never been married, probably never will and it's probably best.
330 posted on 02/05/2003 2:52:34 PM PST by misunderestimated
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To: A.J.Armitage
There are some things you can do when you're single, that you can't when you're married.

Like riding motorcycles?

Alright that does it, single FOREVER...

Mad Max the unensnarible

331 posted on 02/05/2003 3:18:36 PM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: softengine
I didn't think Lorianne was directing her posts at you nor would I consider them aggressive. When I post an article I assume the replies are directed towards the article and not me because of the way the posting is set up on FR. I often post articles just for debate not because I always agree with them and thought everyone else was doing the same.
332 posted on 02/05/2003 3:20:39 PM PST by hotpotato
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To: misunderestimated
He gets really p'o'd when women talk about no good men but he says the same thing about successful, available women "They're all bitches!" He doesn't see the parallel and only gets more p'o'd if I try to point it out to him.

Some people are like that... good at dishing it out and not at taking it. Demonstrates a lack of good character and probably best if they don't get married.

333 posted on 02/05/2003 3:23:33 PM PST by hotpotato
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To: uglybiker
he is a teddy bear for sure
334 posted on 02/05/2003 3:28:59 PM PST by Taffini
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To: uglybiker
let's see him from the front
335 posted on 02/05/2003 3:29:32 PM PST by Taffini
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To: Voltage
exactly,i married a spit-fire" borderline personality,hot head ,like Maureen O'Hara ,who screwed me royaly.

destroyed me and my romantic delusions of love & marriage


As single guys say,"you wasted the best years of your life"
336 posted on 02/05/2003 3:44:18 PM PST by wiseone
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To: Taffini
let's see him from the front

Hey baby!

I'm too sexy for my shirt.

337 posted on 02/05/2003 4:11:25 PM PST by uglybiker
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To: softengine
Dear softengine,

Everything before 40 is just practice:) Trust me:):)

338 posted on 02/05/2003 4:49:19 PM PST by BobS
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To: uglybiker
even better looking on the front view--like the glasses
339 posted on 02/05/2003 4:53:34 PM PST by Taffini
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To: hotpotato
"does that mean that you will advised your daughter to do likewise?"

I believe that there are aspects of america's culture and education system that are inculcating the vast majority of educated women in this country in ways that negatively affect their desirability as wives. I'm not sure the extent to which those negative aspects of our education and culture which apply to boys specifically affect their desirability as husbands.

But, the crucial thing is this: our choices are not always between what we have and something better...they are often between what we have and something worse. I think that foreign women (latin american and asian in particular) generally make better wives due to the fact that they don't have the ideological baggage.

But is there a culture out there that is producing young men that will generally make better husbands? I'm not so sure. If you know of one, please pass it along, and I'll absolutely consider suggesting it to her when the time comes.

340 posted on 02/05/2003 6:49:14 PM PST by quebecois
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