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California: Tripling of Car Tax on way to Governor. Volunteers needed for referendum petition
KFI Radio, John and Ken Show | Feb 3, 2003 | Me

Posted on 02/03/2003 4:52:01 PM PST by John Jorsett

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To: John Jorsett
Do you know if these increases also apply to commercial vehicles?

If they do, you can get the truckers to help with your problem, although they will be a bit more pro-active than writing and calling.

Truckers will just slow everything down to a crawl and cause the state to cease doing any practical business. At least that is what they could do if they organized.

21 posted on 02/04/2003 2:50:54 PM PST by wcbtinman
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To: wcbtinman
Don't know but check this list:

California: Davis seeks compromise on vehicle tax hike

22 posted on 02/04/2003 3:01:24 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Impeach Governor Gray Davis!)
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To: wcbtinman
Do you know if these increases also apply to commercial vehicles?

Yes. All vehicles over $5,000 in value, from what I understand.

Rather than slowing things down, truckers would be more useful in helping to circulate the referendum petitions.

23 posted on 02/04/2003 3:02:05 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
I almost hope these SOBs do this. Just to wake people the hell up. This would be enough to piss off millions, real bad, and maybe wake them up, to this corrupt, insane, big government spending.


24 posted on 02/04/2003 3:03:36 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: John Jorsett
That would exempt most of the illegal aliens. LOL!
25 posted on 02/04/2003 3:04:53 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I almost hope these SOBs do this.

I can guarantee that if Davis signs this, it'll be fought on two fronts: 1) A referendum putting it to the voters, and 2) a lawsuit challenging it on the grounds that it needs a 2/3 vote. The first is the best bet to head it off fast, since a lawsuit would probably take years.

26 posted on 02/04/2003 3:10:46 PM PST by John Jorsett
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To: John Jorsett
I know, I've heard that it will go to the voters. Tell you, the voters of this state better wake the hell up to these criminals. Triple already high registration fees? LOL!

I have a feeling this is going down in flames over deep water.

But if it don't, the laze voters get what they deserve. But I guarentee, if they ever do pass anything like this, there would be so many pissed off people. Even the laziest of Californians would be buyin pitchforks and burning touches. LOL! I would bet on it. Triple the fees? Sheesh.

The people would be so pissed off, that politicians like boxer and grey davis would need to go back to NY were they came from, along with the rest of the AHs in Sacramento.

27 posted on 02/04/2003 3:22:52 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Borderline
Less than two years ago we left California, after 40 years, and moved to America. We have talked about what we did and figure there is no way we would go back. Love it here in Texas. And yes, when we left my high paying job left.
28 posted on 02/04/2003 3:26:19 PM PST by engrpat
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Uh, I've been to Texas several times. You couldn't pay me to live there. I'll tough it out here thanks. Good luck.
29 posted on 02/04/2003 3:32:13 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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I hear ya. I drive a 15 year old pickup and my wife's car is 8 years old. We won't be severely impacted by the vehicle fees as some driving the new vehicles. Now is that fair? I would love to have a new truck, but being as I am also a casualty of the SiliconValley/Internet Bust last year, that will be a ways down the road before I buy a new one.

What really pees me off is the behind the scenes moves to go after Prop 13.

We bought in 1985 and have gradually seen regular increases in our property taxes that are irksome, but manageable.

This 3.33% tax on real estate sales is troublesome.

The proposed extra cent of sales tax is very irritating.

The real issues is , what are we getting in return for our tax dollar?

Are our streets any safer just because we lock up a small percentage of the population for longer periods of time?

Are the roads any less full of potholes?

Are the waters any cleaner as long as MTBE and other poisons are allowed to continue to be used?

More Bang for our Buck and a lot less bureaucracy, can it be done? I would love to give it a shot, but I don't see that as a theme of this whole budgeting mess.

All it is turning out to be is a protection racket for prison guard and teachers unions, and lifer politicians. Term limits aren't effective, as skunks go from one state job to another and from the state assembly to the state senate to state commissions. Cronyism is rampant and the dollar gets the Gov's ear, just like before the election.

Things change and things stay the same. But, like you, thru it all, Im an optomist. God help us all.

30 posted on 02/04/2003 3:48:56 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge
I'll be exempt from this garbage to. All my vehicles are old, but very well maintained, and don't see many miles. We'll be watching this one close though.
31 posted on 02/04/2003 4:23:58 PM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: John Jorsett
"...truckers would be more usefull in helping to circulate the referendum petitions."

In a normal working republic with govt respect for the Constitution, I would agree. In today's reality, your petition will be treated with just so much contempt from the elitists who inhabit your govt.

Truckers can be one of the most powerfull allies any group could have. Truckers can control economic factors on a very specific, local level, or they can operate with regional or national influence. I think that this tripling of licensing fees will get their attention in as much as a truck tag typically costs over a thousand dollars, you can see that this is major coin for the trucking companies as well as the owner operators.

If you get just 20 or so trucks involved in a "traffic slowdown" centered on the state capital, this will definitely get lawmaker's attentiion. This tactic was used to great and immediate effect in D.C. a few years ago over fuel tax increases and increases in tolls on some Northeast highways. If lawmakers can't eat, get gas, or any of the other supplies that truckers deliver on a timely basis, they will pay attention.

I would start talking to the truckers by going to a truckstop and asking the restaurant manager if you could place some flyers/petitions. Truckers and the CB radio will do the rest.

Remember, sooner or later, everything goes by truck.

32 posted on 02/04/2003 6:01:34 PM PST by wcbtinman
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