[livius]

I can't understand the logic involved here.

Neither can I. When I called them on this remark, they couldn't defend it either, and in fact a couple of them backed down. But I left there so mad that I think it'll be a while before I go back - actually, my (former) friends probably don't want me back, anyway! It was a high-stress few days.

[alaskanfan]

I really liked the part where this lib started comparing Bush with Clinton and L.B.J., in the context of lying to the U.S.

It makes me think that the left doesn't understand "character" and what it involves. A concept that is totally foreign to them.