Posted on 02/03/2003 6:03:22 AM PST by Timesink
Developing. Watch MSNBC for latest. Internal memo shows some engineers believe there was up to a 7 1/2-inch gash from the foam breakoff at launch. Memo was serious enough to go out to all NASA centers two days before disaster.
Oh sheesh, who gave you the right to speak for the Astronauts. No one knew during takeoff that the insulation would cause damage to the wing. Maybe there wasn't time for an aborted liftoff maybe they were to high in the atmosphere.
Everybody knew(the Asrtronauts, their families, the enginineers on the ground) that space flight is inherently dangerous and if one little thing goes wrong in can be catostrophic.
But TLB the all knowing wishes to spit on the spirit of the Asrtonauts and their grieving families, that he(TLBSHOW) alone could have prevented this.
You make me sick with your petulance and arrogance.
Telespopic video should be SOP for all re-entrys, and yes....WTF?
Aha! Despite all the bashing of me for DARING to question the sacred Mission Control, more and more evidence emerges of the sheer laziness and negligence of the NASA brass. Some people treat MC as the engineering Vatican, which can never be questioned. Nonsense. If it is truly found that negligence can be established then someone should do prison time for this, as should have the brass who KNEW about the Morton Thiakol warning about the Challenger "O" rings, and did nothing out of sheer arrogance.
I think it's an arrow showing the damage..
They couldnt do the repair in space. There are no hand holds on the outside of the Shuttle so there is nothing to hold on to. They had no teether so a trip outside would have accomplished nothing but a sooner death. BTW, the Russian ship was in Kazakstan which would have taken at least a day to get the materials there minimum, assuming they were readily available in the US. Another day to catch up with the Shuttle. Then how do you offload the materials from the unmanned russian ship without a teether on board the Shuttle?
Oh, there were plenty of such rumblings over on DUh within minutes of the news breaking.
The report said that the Astronauts could NOT have done a space-walk, because they weren't trained to do so, and it wasn't that type of a mission.
But here's the important part. Person said that the outside of the Shuttle was smooth, with no handles for the Astronaut to hold on to while trying to make a repair. I was under the impression he was referring to the "Tile Area". The handles on the outside of the shuttle were expensive to install it's not "cost effective". IOW's they USED to have handles, so the Astronauts wouldn't float off into orbit.
Anyone else care to comment on this? And please, forgive my ignorance on this subject...if I didn't state this in a more cognizant way.
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Yep, that sure is a long time
In the spirit of not personally attacking you...if you really believe all the facts, including negligence on the part of NASA (or any other ABC agency involved for that matter) will be publically disclosed; then I believe you to be willfully naive.
What is your basis for that statement. I understand they had enough life support to last until Wednesday.
Space flight is extremely dangerous. Space flight by organizations that adhere to the principles of affirmative action (i.e., "good enough", rather than the best for the job) is trebly dangerous. It will be many years before that first statement becomes false. The second statement will never be false.
If the possible damage was known from the start of the mission, we have "eyes" that'd given us pictures of that possible damage, so sharp you could count the pores. The Pentagon could've done it, if asked. That would have given us almost a month to mount a rescue, if indeed the damage was the problem. But they didn't look, apparently, so we can't know.
BINGO! Just like the astronauts cannot do a space walk to see under the shuttle -- no hand holds, etc. and could do more damage. They are unable to fix tiles while in space because of the limited space walk capability not to mention how are they going to glue the tiles on if they could -- the tiles are custom made to fit the shuttle and individually glued on. Guess they figure they could use come crazy glue?
The reporters and some of their stupid questions without researching is beyond my belief! Also people want instaneous answers -- not going to happen. That is what Accident Investigation Boards are for -- they happen to know a lot more than members of the press!
I am absolutely shocked at some of the things I have seen written about what they could have done. The shuttle is a glider not an Air Force jet and doesn't maneuver wherever it wants to go. This isn't a Star Wars movie!
Good luck finding the next generation of people willing to put everyting on the line and take risks for this country. We need to be deserving of them.
In all of this, I hope that those who carry the actual weight of making these decisions can find peace. These decisions where put before them, not us.
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