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Did environmentalism bring down Columbia?(engineer pleaded for presidential order to halt flights)
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| Joseph Farah
Posted on 02/03/2003 5:52:06 AM PST by TLBSHOW
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To: backhoe; madfly; Stand Watch Listen; brityank; OldFriend; Grampa Dave; editor-surveyor; ...
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To: steve in DC
To: 1rudeboy
It's even the wrong color. The Shuttle wing edges are gray. I haven't seen such a consistent effort to push a photo that immediately discredits the poster in a very long time. The foam blowing agent story deserves traction.
This picture doesn't.
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posted on
02/05/2003 7:07:14 PM PST
by
Carry_Okie
(With friends like these, who needs friends?)
To: TLBSHOW; Tailgunner Joe
As much as I despise the Urth-worshipping enviro-NAZI, I'd say that this has to be laid at the feet of the Bone-Heads who run the tax-eating garbage dump known as NASA.
Can you say Judgement?
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posted on
02/05/2003 8:09:30 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
To: TLBSHOW; Mo1
That picture is a laugh!
There was a better version of it on somebody's web site that showed what you are really looking at. - The squiggly line that they are calling a 'crack' is really a wire that is taped to the cargo bay threshold, leading to a sensor that is just barely visible near the left edge of the red circle. - The 'dent' in the circle to the right is just a fold in a rubberized tarp of some kind. You can see the seams in the tarp even in this bad photo, and the piece of grey duct tape that holds the wire in place.
And they call this garbage 'journalism?'
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posted on
02/05/2003 8:21:54 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
To: editor-surveyor
They are working on a new idea to cover themselves this is going to be a wild ride.
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posted on
02/05/2003 8:22:45 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
To: Mo1
It's a flat out fake, which Todd has been told repeatedly but he continues to post it.
What does that tell you about Todd?
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posted on
02/05/2003 8:24:00 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: Carry_Okie; 1rudeboy
Here is a better copy of the photo that shows the wire that they called a 'crack.'
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posted on
02/05/2003 8:32:17 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
To: Howlin
It's not exactly a fake, it's misdirection.
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posted on
02/05/2003 8:35:53 PM PST
by
editor-surveyor
(Best policy RE: Environmentalists, - ZERO TOLERANCE !!)
To: editor-surveyor
can you tell howlin that we already went over this picture that was from maariv? She won't let me post to her but she can post to me or behind my back about me. Thanks! LOL-
As I explained to her this really is not about a picture that has been on most news web sites and talked about on Rush show as real! In fact I told her I posted it once or twice. lol
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posted on
02/05/2003 8:44:49 PM PST
by
TLBSHOW
(God Speed as Angels trending upward dare to fly Tribute to the Risk Takers)
To: editor-surveyor
It was posted as damage on the shuttle wing.
That's fake. No matter how you dress it up.
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posted on
02/05/2003 8:45:19 PM PST
by
Howlin
To: Tailgunner Joe
yup - heard about this the day it happened. Shameful.
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posted on
02/05/2003 10:12:56 PM PST
by
Terriergal
(Matthew 23:24 "You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. ")
To: Tailgunner Joe
Wanna buy a Yugo?
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posted on
02/05/2003 10:13:10 PM PST
by
Terriergal
(Matthew 23:24 "You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel. ")
To: Tailgunner Joe
bTTT!!!!!!
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posted on
02/06/2003 4:08:44 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: Tailgunner Joe; TLBSHOW; bonesmccoy; Dog; Lael; Gracey; XBob; Budge; wirestripper; DoughtyOne
This ET story is nothing. We had another O-ring failure similar to the one which brought down Challenger because of the switch to AlGore-Friendly solvents. Why is nobody talking about that one?
KENNEDY SPACE CENTER SPACE SHUTTLE STATUS REPORT
(UPDATED) FRIDAY, JULY 12, 1996 (7:07 PM EDT) Mission managers decided late today to not roll Atlantis back out to the pad in order to destack the vehicle from its current set of solid rocket boosters and re-stack it to another set. Atlantis has been in the Vehicle Assembly Building since Wednesday when it was taken off Pad 39A due to threats from Hurricane Bertha.
This decision will delay Atlantis' launch until mid-September.
Atlantis' boosters are being replaced because of hot gas seepage into the field joints of the Columbia STS-78 boosters, which was launched on June 20.
An investigation found that the most probable cause of the seepage was related to the use of a new adhesive and cleaning fluid.
The investigation also concluded that the risk of a field joint failure was improbable and that the STS-79 boosters were safe to fly. The decision to replace the STS-79 boosters, which utilized the new adhesive used on STS-78, was made to provide an opportunity to better understand the J-joint failure and to improve the safety margin of the field joints.
Additional information and timelines for destacking and restacking Atlantis will be available next week.
To: editor-surveyor
To: TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!; Howlin; Carry_Okie
I was finally able to locate my old booster "stuff".
The "old" solvent was Trichloroethane. It was replaced by "PF Degreaser" manufactured by P-T Technologies, 108 4th Ave. South, Safety Harbor, FL 34695.
The Specification for this wonderful elixir is MSFC-QPL-2490 "CLEANER, ORGANIC WITH D-LIMONENE", which was issued in July 1995.
This specification establishes the requirements for an environmentally compliant hand wipe cleaner... The cleaner shall be a clear liquid, free of foreign material and have a faint citrus odor as determined by visual inspection with the unaided eye (corrective lenses permitted).
I guess everybody thought I was joking about the lemon-scented cleaner.
The "old" J-Flap adhesive was Morstik 132, which contained TCA. The "new" stuff is Morstik 227, which is water-based. (I don't have the specs. on that stuff.)
Another cleaner called out in B5303 (the booster stacking procedure) is "Reveille Cleaner Formula #02191". The specification for that is MSFC-SPEC-2489 "CLEANER, ORGANIC", issued in July 1995. It is manufactured by Diversey Dubois International, Inc., 255 E. 5th St., Cincinnati, OH 45202. This stuff is a petroleum distillate of some kind.
It should be noted that each of these specs listed only one product which met the specifications. In fact, they were both written so that only a single product could possibly meet the specifications.
Anybody want to bet that these two companies had political connections to the clinton administration?
Once again, you are reading something here on FR which you won't find anywhere else in the media. FReepers Rule!
To: editor-surveyor
Re. your post #28: That's not the shuttle wing -- it appears to be the inside of the cargo bay.
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posted on
02/06/2003 5:29:09 AM PST
by
Joe Brower
(http://www.joebrower.com/)
To: snopercod
Thanks! Good work!
Bump!!!
To: Go Gordon; Carry_Okie
BumPing. See thread 37. I knew I read something before on FR tying Clinton and the environwackos to everything bad ;-)
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