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The fact that it was witnessed as big and red over Las Vegas.

The fact that the left wing was damaged at lift off.

The fact someone in Utah saw things breaking off it there and the fact NASA says it heated up in 60 seconds.

The fact that a person in California says he saw problems there as it went over.

Those facts make me say that it was at re-entry that the tiles started to burn and kept burning as it flew over the different states. With tiles flying off it as it flew across the states and it just kept getting hotter and hotter until over Texas it exploded or broke up from the heat.

That is how I base my opinion as a fact as to what happend to this space shuttle.

Those are what you are presenting as FACT?

The fact that it was witnessed as big and red over Las Vegas.

Big and red? So is Rudolph's nose!

Where are the FACTS that back that up, not something you're read on FR and speculated on.

And I know you can cut and paste, so let's see the PRINTED FACTS from a reliable source.

"The fact that it was witnessed as big and red over Las Vegas."

If I recall the news, the crew was in communication with Houston until 9:00 EST, at which time, I believe they were over North (maybe northeast) Texas, you are claiming that the shuttle was suffering catasthropic events at re-entry without the crew, or ground control noticing it?

Or could it be that the people who reported seeing this in Vegas are caught up in the moment?

"The fact that the left wing was damaged at lift off."

No Todd, that's an assumption. The fact is than on film, something appears to have struck the left wing, then disintegrate. No one knows exactly what that object may have been, and at this point, what damage that may have caused has not been ascertained. We'll have to wait until the results of the investigation to find out.

"The fact someone in Utah saw things breaking off it there and the fact NASA says it heated up in 60 seconds."

Todd, I can have sworn testimony delivered to you from thousands of people from Miami who claim that they saw the face of Jesus in an avocado pit.

Someone in Utah Todd?

I think the largest bit of debris from the shuttle found so far is less than twelve feet long, and not quite as wide. What you offer up as "proof" is that someone in Utah saw details on an object that size, roughly two hundred plus thousand feet above his or her head, traveling in a cloud of smoke at 18 times the speed of sound?

Have you ever seen a vehicle at re-entry? Would you know the difference hbetween a normal re-entry, and a catastropic one if you saw it?

"The fact that a person in California says he saw problems there as it went over."

It was going even faster and higher here, but you have another Hawkeye up for proof.

The shuttle enters the atmosphere surrounded by a fireball, that's why the tiles are in place, to protect the shuttle from the fire.

A big, red ball of fire in the sky to some.

"That is how I base my opinion as a fact as to what happend to this space shuttle.

Do you have any idea of just how incredibly ridiculous that statement is?