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God punished Columbia because an Israeli 'spy' was on board, Palestinians say
Jerusalem Post ^

Posted on 02/02/2003 10:09:51 AM PST by RCW2001

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To: yonif; Catspaw; Cultural Jihad; Roscoe
I was over at CPAC that day, and some guys were spreading around lies that the Israeli astronaut had a bomb in his bag and Israel blew up the shuttle in order to galvanize the situation between Israel and the US.

Was one of them named Willis Carto?

81 posted on 02/02/2003 2:20:08 PM PST by Poohbah (Beware the fury of a patient man -- John Dryden)
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To: RCW2001
Please leave God alone. How typically human to involve him in our self made insanities.
82 posted on 02/02/2003 2:26:20 PM PST by Eternal_Bear
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To: RCW2001
"We heard that the Israeli was a pilot in the Israeli air force who had participated in the attack on the Iraqi nuclear reactor," said Jamil Shehadeh, a 22-year-old mechanic. "God is great because this pilot has now been punished for the crime which he committed. I wish we will have more disasters like this in the US and Israel. Who do the Americans and Israelis think they are?"

We think we are, and we are, Civilized people, Jamil. We do suffer much less from disasters. We have floods, earthquakes and fires just like the rest of the world, but the same disasters that routinely produce hundreds or thousands of casualties elsewhere, here produce few or none. The difference stems from wealth, technology, and the rule of law (building codes, disciplined behavior of victims and responders, etc). The difference is the result of living in the 21st Century rather then the 7th. You should try it yourselves, once you manage to get over your willful embrace of violent, nihilistic and inhuman barbarism.

83 posted on 02/02/2003 2:29:36 PM PST by Stultis
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To: angkor
It says that theology is available in comic books.

Well, I don't catch your exegesis, but attempts at theology are one thing; they can be concocted very quickly and cheaply.

Discipleship is another thing, though.

People will worship whatever they exhalt the most. May you do so accurately.

84 posted on 02/02/2003 2:36:04 PM PST by unspun (. . . . under God . . . . ( * ) .. ( * ) . . . .)
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To: RCW2001
I can't help but wonder, if they believe God is punishing us with tragedies such as this, shouldn't they believe that their being born in the Middle-East was also a punishment from God?
85 posted on 02/02/2003 2:51:43 PM PST by Eowyn-of-Rohan
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To: LindaSOG
Genesis 6...

Then again... ;-`

87 posted on 02/02/2003 3:24:00 PM PST by unspun (. . . . under God . . . . ( * ) .. ( * ) . . . .)
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To: PokeyJoe
"They were sent to space to spy on the Arabs and Muslims,"said Rudainah Salman, a 28-year-old schoolteacher from Ramallah.

I stand speechless before this incredibly (choose one) backward, half-witted, retarded; idiotic, imbecilic statement. I'm absolutely astounded!
88 posted on 02/02/2003 3:38:13 PM PST by Valin (Age and deceit beat youth and skill)
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To: angkor
There was a similar thread this morning, with some of our local FR regulars asserting that Roe v. Wade had caused God to remove his protective shield from America,

I read the thread, too. Unless I missed a post or two, those assertions were made by the same person. I get really tired of this attempt to tar the entire board with the opinions of a handful of vocal people. Opinions on FR are not institutional.

89 posted on 02/02/2003 3:48:18 PM PST by AmishDude
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To: unspun
People will worship whatever they exhalt the most. May you do so accurately.

We have a coterie of posters who repeatedly assert that God is withdrawing "his cloak of protection" - or perhaps even "punishing" - America for various infractions of their gross versions of theology.

No coincidence that this is precisely, exactly, what the Islamists say.

As I said, "comic book."

90 posted on 02/02/2003 4:48:41 PM PST by angkor
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To: AmishDude
"Opinions on FR are not institutional."

You are of course correct.
That said, it nevertheless seems readily apparent that some posters of Opinions on FR should be institutionalized.
91 posted on 02/02/2003 4:49:29 PM PST by APBaer
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To: AmishDude
Unless I missed a post or two, those assertions were made by the same person.

I didn't notice that today, but there were a whole flock of them on a thread last week.

92 posted on 02/02/2003 4:55:52 PM PST by angkor
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To: unspun
I seriously agree that blessed is the nation that obeys, and cursed is the nation that does not. I also believe God is watching closely, and acts in ways that we cannot be sure, and therefore I pray that our nation will obey. I just am suspicious of anyone trying to align specific sins or good works as responsible for God acting, or not acting to reward or punish. I don't believe someone can be that sure of God's agenda. They are guessing, sometimes right and sometimes wrong. Messing around with prophecy and being wrong just once makes one a false prophet.

A false prophet is someone I try to steer believers away from.
93 posted on 02/02/2003 5:07:45 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: LindaSOG
My first comment to you was that I did not get your point. It is now obvious what you intended. Maybe besides the list you posted, you might have briefly explained yourself.

I was not offended, just concerned about what point you might have been trying to make.

You have I nice day, I am. THANX for the response.
94 posted on 02/02/2003 5:14:10 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: angkor
"It says that theology is available in comic books."

Unspun and I are believers and you are not. I can't speak for him, but I understand you.

It's OK, I know how you feel. Been there, done that. That's why we pray.
95 posted on 02/02/2003 5:28:47 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: APBaer
I'd say "hear, hear" but you might come here, here;o)
96 posted on 02/02/2003 5:36:22 PM PST by Blue Collar Christian
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To: Blue Collar Christian
Unspun and I are believers and you are not. I can't speak for him, but I understand you.

You are quite arrogant and presumptuous, but you do not understand me.

Let me say it again, more clearly this time: a theology which asserts that God caused the Columbia tragedy or 9/11 - through omission or commission, through "removing his cloak" or by direct intervention - is the theology of comic books.

It is also blasphemy to make such an assertion, no matter what the event.

A believer would understand that.

97 posted on 02/02/2003 5:41:02 PM PST by angkor
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To: RCW2001
God punished the space shuttle Columbia because its crew, which included an Israeli astronaut, was on an espionage mission against the Arab and Muslim nations, some Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip told The Jerusalem Post today.

Again, the Islam version of Jerry Falwell.

98 posted on 02/02/2003 5:47:53 PM PST by RJCogburn (Yes, it is pretty bold talk......)
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To: X_CDN_EH
They made a huge mistake

Yup, that would have been a big monkey wrench in the works.

99 posted on 02/02/2003 5:50:31 PM PST by StriperSniper (Start heating the TAR, I'll go get the FEATHERS.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian
"I'd say "hear, hear" but you might come here, here;o)"

You must think that I'm one of those homo-
nyms, like Barney Frank.
100 posted on 02/02/2003 5:50:54 PM PST by APBaer
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