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African-Americans drowning in wave of illegal immigration
Houston Chronicle ^ | February 2, 2003 | TERRY ANDERSON

Posted on 02/02/2003 8:55:55 AM PST by Dog Gone

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To: Dog Gone
Free Trade is always defended by The I've Got Mine Club ... and screw the rest of you 'little people'.
101 posted on 02/02/2003 1:08:53 PM PST by CIBvet
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To: Dog Gone
...is thousands of Mexicans who care nothing about our traditions and culture, and only want to impose their way on us. That's not immigration, that is invasion.

What traditions are the author talking about? Ebonics, reparations, silly-assed kwanzaa? Getting into a university just because you're black? The author has a hard sell here.

I do agree with him - we have a deadly serious illegal immigration problem. Deporting ALL illegal aliens should be the number one priority of the governemnt, even ahead of taking care of iraq. Illegal aliens, most of which are mexicans, are taking FAR, FAR more than they produce. They get free medical care at the local hospital er. Their kids get free education. They get welfare. The state with the most of them, california, is the state that has the highest budget deficit. They take jobs that citizens should have, ESPECIALLY WHEN THESE CITIZENS ARE LOSING THEIR JOBS IN A RECESSION!

102 posted on 02/02/2003 1:20:39 PM PST by glockmeister40
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To: Clara Lou
** My reaction to Mr. Anderson's concerns is "Hey! That's life. It's happened to many groups, ethnic or otherwise, over the span of history, and it's going to happen some more. Deal with it."**

4 posted on 02/02/2003 9:10 AM PST by Clara Lou

Hey, why should Terry have to "deal with it", why should anyone have to "deal with it"?? This is a very serious problem that our government is neglecting. Are you saying that we are required to live with this problem? Since when? From your post I can see you have absolutely no knowledge whatsoever about what is taking place in our city of LA.

103 posted on 02/02/2003 1:22:39 PM PST by Jennikins
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To: Clara Lou
My reaction to Mr. Anderson's concerns is "Hey! That's life. It's happened to many groups, ethnic or otherwise, over the span of history, and it's going to happen some more. Deal with it."

Translation: don't deal with it.

The reason why I say that is because Mr. Anderson is in fact dealing with it. He is recognizing the problem and advocating a solution -- ie, controlled and legal immigration. So when you say 'deal with it' you really mean that you don't like that solution -- or any solution, for that matter. What you want to do is muddy up the waters of the discussion so that nothing will get done.

Wonder where you were when the Germans invaded the Poles?

104 posted on 02/02/2003 1:30:29 PM PST by 537 Votes
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To: Salvey
I don't understand what you're saying.
105 posted on 02/02/2003 2:08:47 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Dog Gone
READING THIS I feel very helpless like there is no stopping the ruination of my country ,I am waiting for the mexicans to declare southern cal a new nation ,they will soon want their own laws and want to govern themselves, I suppose that this is ok with the author but it is not ok with most AMERICANS ,we will fight to keep this nation whole ,I know the authors are gloading now but that wont last forever, sooner or later the rest of the country will come to the aid of california and when it happens it wont be pretty.
106 posted on 02/02/2003 2:09:35 PM PST by sheila mlls1
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To: Dog Gone
Good article. Very insightful... Something conservatives have been yelling and screaming about (and been labeled racist for) for years...
107 posted on 02/02/2003 2:14:34 PM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: Salvey; Clara Lou; rdb3
What goes around, comes around, eh?

Where does THAT attitude come from? I agree with rdb-- "But one would think that Americans of all stripes would stand together on this issue." Where's the unity? This ain't about "It's happened to many groups, ethnic or otherwise, over the span of history", it's about preserving the state of the union. The kid couldn't get a job in his own durned American neighborhood because he didn't speak Spanish. What a load of bull. How would you like it if that happened to you? It's downright meanspirited to sit back and say "well you had it coming" just on account of the likes of the Rear-ends Jackson and Sharpton et al. This is everybody's problem, dudes and dudettes.

I have no problem with immigrants as long as they pay their taxes like the rest of all God's children. Okay, let me be excruciatingly explicit: I have no problem with Mexican immigrants per se. Illegals, deadbeats, criminals, welfare hustlers, and Persistent Non-Assimilaters (e.g., not bothering to learn English) is where I have a problem. We got enough of them already.

108 posted on 02/02/2003 2:25:18 PM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: maxwell
The issue is criminality, not skin color.

Anderson hasn't yet figured that out.

His "Vietnamese" example is disgusting. Vietnamese people have assimlated gratefully into American culture.

"Hispanic" illegals cannot and will not. Ever.

109 posted on 02/02/2003 2:31:28 PM PST by angkor
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To: Dog Gone
Let me see.

African-Americans are always victims.

White Americans are “oppressing” black people, therefore they deserve to be discriminated against through quotas, set-asides and AA.

Korean-Americans are “oppressing” black people, therefore they deserve to have their property destroyed, just like it happened during the OJ riots in LA.

Jewish Americans are “oppressing” black people, therefore they deserve vile verbal and physical attacks, such as Jesse Jackson calling NY “hymie town”, or the riot that let eight people dead at the behest of “Rev” Sharpton

Now it’s the Hispanic Americans' turn. This concern about "illegal" immigration would be valid if it was coming for a community known for law-abiding citizens.

Last time I checked, black people were a small minority in America but commit the majority of crimes in this country.

What about removing the rafter in your eye first?

110 posted on 02/02/2003 2:40:47 PM PST by LO_IQ
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To: LO_IQ
Last time I checked, black people were a small minority in America but commit the majority of crimes in this country.

And this has precisely what to do with the topic of the thread?

T-minus 41 days until the girth of Tha SYNDICATE, the philosophical heir to William Lloyd Garrison.
101 things that the Mozilla browser can do that Internet Explorer cannot.

111 posted on 02/02/2003 2:43:42 PM PST by rdb3 (So now I'm lookin' dead at you. What are you gonna do?)
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To: maxwell
I don't know where it comes from. I'm glad to see someone else can see what I am talking about.

T-minus 41 days until the girth of Tha SYNDICATE, the philosophical heir to William Lloyd Garrison.
101 things that the Mozilla browser can do that Internet Explorer cannot.

112 posted on 02/02/2003 2:44:53 PM PST by rdb3 (So now I'm lookin' dead at you. What are you gonna do?)
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To: glockmeister40
What traditions are the author talking about? Ebonics, reparations, silly-assed kwanzaa? Getting into a university just because you're black? The author has a hard sell here.

How's about the time-honored tradition of not keeping friggin' chickens in yer front yard...

113 posted on 02/02/2003 2:45:16 PM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: rdb3
I don't buy the premise of the article, that somehow these neighborhoods are being "run down" by Hispanic immigrants
114 posted on 02/02/2003 2:51:52 PM PST by LO_IQ
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To: LO_IQ
I don't buy the premise of the article, that somehow these neighborhoods are being "run down" by Hispanic immigrants

Very revealing. Still didn't answer my question, though.

Tis okay. I'm out.

T-minus 41 days until the girth of Tha SYNDICATE, the philosophical heir to William Lloyd Garrison.
101 things that the Mozilla browser can do that Internet Explorer cannot.

115 posted on 02/02/2003 2:53:59 PM PST by rdb3 (So now I'm lookin' dead at you. What are you gonna do?)
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To: angkor; rdb3
The issue is criminality, not skin color.

And that's what I'm talking about. That is MY whole argument for tightening the border. I don't care if folks are brown green or purple-- like I said above, if they come in here the legal way and pay taxes and speak some form of English like all the rest of us, I got nothin' against 'em.

(Damn. I know exactly what I want to say, but the thoughts are moving alot faster than the actual word processing...)

It seems that some folks are trying to talk about a "black invasion", analogous to a "Mexican invasion". The latter concept is, quite frankly, valid in many cases. The former concept is, quite frankly, grotesquely ludicrous and does not deserve to be dwelt on. Thus, the idea that blacks are getting their "come-uppance" by being ousted from the number-one-minority spot, is severely flawed.

THUS--- Okay now I really did lose my train of thought... Somebody else take the soapbox...

I've become more interested in all this Latino pickle lately-- seeking employment in New Mexico, where I understand close to 50% of the population is Hispanic... Since about all the Spanish I remember is besemeculo, I reckon I best brush up a little... (On second thought, that may be about all I need...)

117 posted on 02/02/2003 3:00:01 PM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: LO_IQ
You don't believe there are any respectable areas of hardworking black folks?

Why not?
118 posted on 02/02/2003 3:00:08 PM PST by wimpycat (US: Masters of our Domain...France: Morally bankrupt "old Europe")
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To: LO_IQ
Sorry, I don't buy it. A "respectable" area of "hard-working" black folks?

Dude, what's up YOUR ass...

119 posted on 02/02/2003 3:02:59 PM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: rdb3
is there a way for us to quantify exactly which corporations/companies use illegals?

We could do some company *profiling*. Start out with construction companies of any sort; highways, homes, buildings, etc. Just go through your local yellow pages and look at the larger companies. The INS could have a field day raiding any one of them.

Branch out to resturants, again just using the yellow pages. The larger chain restaurants certainly employ illegals. But you do have the problem of getting the INS to act. Afterall, the only thing of interest to them is bomb-making terrorists, and illegal Mexican and Central Americans don't usually fall into that group.

Everybody knows that there are millions of illegals all over the U.S., particularly in the southwestern states, and nothing has or is being done about it. We've switched to a bilingual society just to accomodate our illegal Mexicans. They don't need to learn English, we are rewarded in job opportunities for learning to speak Spanish. We have their wretched el Presidente Fox, telling us to be very nice to his people that are here ILLEGALLY and should have only the right of being repatriated back home. Viva La Reconquista! Ole!

120 posted on 02/02/2003 3:03:05 PM PST by xJones (If the U.S. is a real country, why doesn't it have real borders?)
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