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Debris Photos (GRAPHIC)
Yahoo News photos ^ | 2/2/03 | freepers

Posted on 02/02/2003 7:34:59 AM PST by Mark Felton

Edited on 02/02/2003 12:51:23 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

[Your attention please. This thread has generated a ton of abuse reports. Some have been from long established freepers. Others have been from relative newbies. Some have been complaining about the thread. Others have been complaining about the complainers.

Throw on top of it the fact that some of the newbies who showed up on this thread happen to be returning bannees, who before being banned were friendly with some of the very people they are bickering with here, and something is striking us as just not right.

If you are interested in the debris photos, this is the thread for it. If not, don't join in this thread. It is not disrespectful to those who died to post pictures of the debris in our opinion. What they show and where they landed may help piece together what killed these brave people.

If you feel that is the wrong decision, we apologize and mean no harm. But please, no more arguing about it on the thread, and no more abuse reports on the matter.

Thanks, AM.]

Fires, believed started by debris from the downed space shuttle Columbia, burn in an area near Dallas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Seven astronauts perished when the shuttle broke to pieces as it re-entered the atmosphere at the end of a 16-day mission. (AP Photo/Joe Cavaretta)
Sun Feb 2, 1:14 AM ET

Fires, believed started by debris from the downed space shuttle Columbia, burn in an area near Dallas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Seven astronauts perished when the shuttle broke to pieces as it re-entered the atmosphere at the end of a 16-day mission. (AP Photo/Joe Cavaretta)



A video image of a helmet that dropped into a yard in Norwood Community, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia is seen Feb. 1, 2002. Many parts of the shuttle, along with human remains, were found in the area. NASA officials later removed the helmet. (Rick Wilking/Reuters)
Sat Feb 1, 9:31 PM ET

A video image of a helmet that dropped into a yard in Norwood Community, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia is seen Feb. 1, 2002. Many parts of the shuttle, along with human remains, were found in the area. NASA (news - web sites) officials later removed the helmet. (Rick Wilking/Reuters)



A small brush fire started by a falling piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Athens, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during re-entry over Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Fla., Feb. 1, 2003. Authorities have not speculated on the cause of the crash. (Jeff Mitchell/Reuters)
Sat Feb 1,10:35 PM ET

A small brush fire started by a falling piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Athens, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during re-entry over Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Fla., Feb. 1, 2003. Authorities have not speculated on the cause of the crash. (Jeff Mitchell/Reuters)


A piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia is photographed near Lufkin, Texas, Feb. 1, 2003. NASA lost contact with the shuttle at around 9 a.m., about 16 minutes before its scheduled landing at Kennedy Space Center. (Reuters)
Sat Feb 1, 9:31 PM ET

A piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia is photographed near Lufkin, Texas, Feb. 1, 2003. NASA (news - web sites) lost contact with the shuttle at around 9 a.m., about 16 minutes before its scheduled landing at Kennedy Space Center (news - web sites). (Reuters)


Goldie Hamilton looks at a piece of debris that dropped into her yard in Alto, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia February 1, 2003. Many parts of the shuttle along with human remains were found in the area. Hamilton lives in the house in the background. REUTERS/Rick Wilking
Sat Feb 1, 9:15 PM ET

Goldie Hamilton looks at a piece of debris that dropped into her yard in Alto, Texas from the space shuttle Columbia February 1, 2003. Many parts of the shuttle along with human remains were found in the area. Hamilton lives in the house in the background. REUTERS/Rick Wilking


A piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia dropped into this yard in Alto, Texas, February 1, 2003. Debris from space shuttle Columbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking
Sat Feb 1, 9:18 PM ET

A piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia dropped into this yard in Alto, Texas, February 1, 2003. Debris from space shuttle Columbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking



Stan Melasky, left, and his brother Steve Melasky look over a piece of debris, believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia, that fell on their farm near Douglass, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)
Sat Feb 1, 7:43 PM ET

Stan Melasky, left, and his brother Steve Melasky look over a piece of debris, believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia, that fell on their farm near Douglass, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)


An Anderson County sheriff's deputy walks past a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Palestine, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during reentry over East Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Florida, February 1, 2003. Shaken NASA officials vowed to find out what caused the space shuttle Columbia to break up, saying they would look closely at the impact of a piece of foam insulation that struck the orbiter's left wing at takeoff. REUTERS/Jeff Mitchell
Sat Feb 1, 8:52 PM ET

An Anderson County sheriff's deputy walks past a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia outside Palestine, Texas after the shuttle broke apart during reentry over East Texas on its way to a scheduled landing in Florida, February 1, 2003. Shaken NASA (news - web sites) officials vowed to find out what caused the space shuttle Columbia to break up, saying they would look closely at the impact of a piece of foam insulation that struck the orbiter's left wing at takeoff. REUTERS/Jeff Mitchell


A piece of space shuttle debris sits on the ground outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
Sat Feb 1, 7:25 PM ET

A piece of space shuttle debris sits on the ground outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)


Searchers mark a small piece of debris while looking for remnants of the space shuttle outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)
Sat Feb 1, 7:29 PM ET

Searchers mark a small piece of debris while looking for remnants of the space shuttle outside Bronson, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. Space shuttle Columbia broke apart in flames 200,000 feet over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/David J. Phillip)


Resident Bugs Arriola looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia, Sunday, Feb. 2, 2003 in Nacogdoches, Texas. People have been told not to touch any of the debris as there could be toxic chemicals on the material. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)
Sun Feb 2,10:11 AM ET

Resident Bugs Arriola looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia, Sunday, Feb. 2, 2003 in Nacogdoches, Texas. People have been told not to touch any of the debris as there could be toxic chemicals on the material. (AP Photo/Donna McWilliam)


Vollunteer firefigher John Berry looks out at small piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia in a rural area north of Palestine, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. The shuttle broke apart in flames over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/LM Otero)
Sat Feb 1, 7:41 PM ET

Vollunteer firefigher John Berry looks out at small piece of debris believed to be from the space shuttle Columbia in a rural area north of Palestine, Texas, Saturday, Feb. 1, 2003. The shuttle broke apart in flames over Texas on Saturday, killing all seven astronauts just minutes before they were to glide to a landing in Florida. (AP Photo/LM Otero)


A couple looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia that dropped onto the highway in Alto, Texas February 1, 2003. Debris fromColumbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking
Sat Feb 1, 9:23 PM ET

A couple looks at a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia that dropped onto the highway in Alto, Texas February 1, 2003. Debris fromColumbia rained down onto fields, highways and a cemetery in Texas on Saturday, sending dozens of residents to hospitals after they handled the smoldering metal wreckage. All seven astronauts on board were killed in the break-up, which scattered potentially toxic debris across a 120-mile (190-km-long) swath of eastern Texas. REUTERS/Rick Wilking


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To: amom
great photo
421 posted on 02/02/2003 5:08:08 PM PST by Mark Felton
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To: amom

State troopers guard a piece of debris from the space shuttle Columbia in Etoile, Texas, Sunday, Feb. 3, 2003.

422 posted on 02/02/2003 5:08:15 PM PST by amom
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To: Mark Felton
Good. I hope it helps.
423 posted on 02/02/2003 5:10:21 PM PST by amom
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To: Rushmore Rocks; flair2000
405 - "Before you issue another blanket condemnation....go there.
Visit the people. I'm sure they will change your mind, and, hopefully, your heart."

Rush - sssssh!!!! don't tell people that. we don't want all those people ruining it, like they did to South Florida.

flair - this is a terrible place - bad climate, unfriendly people , bad cooking, no jobs, polluted air, just a bunch of ignorant hicks down here in this 'briar patch'. Stay right where you are.
424 posted on 02/02/2003 5:11:55 PM PST by XBob
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To: Thud
I heard something about new software on TV. I didn't hear but maybe it could have been navigational software. You might want to keep an eye out for that. I also heard an old astronaut describe how control is critical and difficult on re-entry.

Numerous times I've viewed that takeoff incident and IMO it's apparent that whatever fell off evaporated on part of the craft. How much damage could something evaporative do?

425 posted on 02/02/2003 5:12:01 PM PST by Lady Jag (Googolplex Start Thinker of the Seventh Galaxy of Light and Ingenuity)
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To: isthisnickcool
thanks for taking the flowers and card ...
426 posted on 02/02/2003 5:12:18 PM PST by fnord (aint it just like the night to play tricks when you're tryin' to be so quiet?)
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To: Arkinsaw
The symbol is standard for all military aircraft, regardless of service. The helicopter is an HH-65 Dolphin, painted in Coast Guard orange. Some other more knowledgeable Freeper may correct me if I'm wrong, but to my knowledge the Coast Guard is the only service that flies the HH-65.

But the paint scheme is the big giveaway.
427 posted on 02/02/2003 5:12:43 PM PST by kms61
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To: Mark Felton
terrible place mark, terrible (seem my #424)
428 posted on 02/02/2003 5:15:06 PM PST by XBob
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To: XBob
tanks are not metal, they are made of wrapping composite, tape, which I think is to be fiberglass, into a sphere, making a tough, light tank.

I know that most are, but was of the impression that some of the tanks which held non-corrosive small-molecule materials like Helium were metal, as it diffuses through many other materials - and it looked like there were two materials, one which burned, and another which maintained its coppery color.

Ah-well.

429 posted on 02/02/2003 5:15:43 PM PST by lepton
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To: Thud
Agreed- the suspected drag on the left side of the shuttle wing (underside) would bring the ship counter clockwise. Perhaps after the auto correction was initiated, which brought the nose clockwise (over compensated ? ) a gross control failure took place and there was no way to bring the ship's nose back into a forward position, properly aligned with the flight path.
430 posted on 02/02/2003 5:17:36 PM PST by freepersup (Put That Bur qa On ! Put That Bur qa On ! Put That Bur qa On !)
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To: XBob
LOL yah...and all the girls are ugly. And that Tyler sausage is awful. And they don't know how to make chicken fried steak for nuthen.
431 posted on 02/02/2003 5:17:45 PM PST by amom (Hook em Horns and pass the Lone Star)
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To: Timesink; michigander
415-"Seems they only cost $5. If they were made of something special, you'd think they'd cost more than that."

remember what survived the world trade fires, explosions, and collapse best - paper.
432 posted on 02/02/2003 5:20:21 PM PST by XBob
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To: amom
Questions and Answers about Shuttle systems/parts and Rockets
433 posted on 02/02/2003 5:22:21 PM PST by lepton
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To: Elsie
This is incorrect. It takes the SAME amount of time to download, and a bit LONGER to display it!

We're not talking about trying to enlarge or reduce any graphics. It's just that when you provide the browser with the proper width and height of a graphic, it can go ahread and create a box for it and display the rest of the page, filling in the empty box as the picture data comes in. Without the height and width parameters, the browser can't display the page at all until the entire photo has been downloaded, because that's the only way for the browser to find out how big the photo is in the first place.

434 posted on 02/02/2003 5:23:17 PM PST by Timesink (They're the Dissociated Press)
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To: kms61
Interesting. I was unaware that the winged-star was used by any service other than Air Force.
435 posted on 02/02/2003 5:24:06 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: amom
"Hook em Horns and pass the Lone Star"

Gig'em Aggies and pass the Lone Star

436 posted on 02/02/2003 5:25:22 PM PST by Mark Felton
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To: XBob
XBob

Sorry, I almost gave away the secret. Although I've lived in the beautiful Black Hills of South Dakota for over 30 years, I still go to east Texas at least once a year to brush up on my southern accent and eat catfish...nuthin' better! Will go again soon to help thin the new pine trees on the plantation. Who knows what "debris" may lurk there? My relatives are looking over the property for anything to turn over to NASA right now. As dense as the timber and brush are, my great grandchildren may be finding material years from now.
437 posted on 02/02/2003 5:26:06 PM PST by Rushmore Rocks
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To: sciencediet
"Numerous times I've viewed that takeoff incident and IMO it's apparent that whatever fell off evaporated on part of the craft. How much damage could something evaporative do?"

ah, yes, that baseball bat really evaporates into a poof when it hits a bag of flower.
438 posted on 02/02/2003 5:29:04 PM PST by XBob
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To: Mark Felton
Gig'em Aggies

Oh NO! ;-)

Actually some of my best friends are Aggies...don't tell.

439 posted on 02/02/2003 5:35:07 PM PST by amom (No matter what the Lone Star state is a country unto it's own. With a heart as big as all outdoors.)
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To: lepton
I am unaware of that, particularly, of any use of helium (an inert gas), period, except for testing.

helium and hydrogen atoms are so small, they leak through anything, period, no matter what the composition.

helium is used for testing equipment, most comes from Texas, and is shipped and stored in very very thick walled tanks on rail cars, in banks of tanks which look like big pipe racks. and even then they they leak. Hydrogen is made nearby in a hydrogen plant, as needed for each flight.

However, it could be. There are a lot of tanks, for a lot of things, and I am not familiar with the components of each.
440 posted on 02/02/2003 5:37:21 PM PST by XBob
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