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Columbia's Problems Began on Left Wing
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Posted on 02/01/2003 4:25:45 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Columbia's Problems Began on Left Wing By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

Filed at 6:56 p.m. ET

CAPE CANAVERAL, Fla. (AP) -- Investigators trying to figure out what destroyed space shuttle Columbia immediately focused on the left wing and the possibility that its thermal tiles were damaged far more seriously than NASA realized by a piece of debris during liftoff.

Just a little over a minute into Columbia's launch Jan. 16, a chunk of insulating foam peeled away from the external fuel tank and smacked into the ship's left wing.

On Saturday, that same wing started exhibiting sensor failures and other problems 23 minutes before Columbia was scheduled to touch down. With just 16 minutes remaining before landing, the shuttle disintegrated over Texas.

Just a day earlier, on Friday, NASA's lead flight director, Leroy Cain, had declared the launch-day incident to be absolutely no reason for concern. An extensive engineering analysis had concluded that any damage to Columbia's thermal tiles would be minor.

``As we look at that now in hindsight ... we can't discount that there might be a connection,'' shuttle manager Ron Dittemore said on Saturday, hours after the tragedy. ``But we have to caution you and ourselves that we can't rush to judgment on it because there are a lot of things in this business that look like the smoking gun but turn out not even to be close.''

The shuttle has more than 20,000 thermal tiles to protect it from the extreme heat of re-entry into the atmosphere. The black, white or gray tiles are made of a carbon composite or silica-glass fibers and are attached to the shuttle with silicone adhesive.

If a spaceship has loose, damaged or missing tiles, that can change the aerodynamics of the ship and warp or melt the underlying aluminum airframe, causing nearby tiles to peel off in a chain reaction.

If the tiles start stripping off in large numbers or in crucial spots, a spacecraft can overheat, break up and plunge to Earth in a shower of hot metal, much like Russia's Mir space station did in 2001.

Dittemore said that the disaster could have been caused instead by a structural failure of some sort. He did not elaborate.

As for other possibilities, however, NASA said that until the problems with the wing were noticed, everything else appeared to be performing fine.

NASA officials said, for example, that the shuttle was in the proper position when it re-entered the atmosphere on autopilot. Re-entry at too steep an angle can cause a spaceship to burn up.

Law enforcement authorities said was no indication of terrorism; at an altitude of 39 miles, the shuttle was out of range of any surface-to-air missile, one senior government official said.

If the liftoff damage was to blame, the shuttle and its crew of seven may well have been doomed from the very start of the mission.

Dittemore said there was nothing that the astronauts could have done in orbit to fix damaged thermal tiles and nothing that flight controllers could have done to safely bring home a severely scarred shuttle, given the extreme temperatures of re-entry.

The shuttle broke apart while being exposed to the peak temperature of 3,000 degrees on the leading edge of the wings, while traveling at 12,500 mph, or 18 times the speed of sound.

A California Institute of Technology astronomer Anthony Beasley, reported seeing a trail of fiery debris behind the shuttle over California, with one piece clearly backing away and giving off its own light before slowly fading and falling. Dittemore was unaware of the sighting and did not want to speculate on it.

If thermal tiles were being ripped off the wing, that would have created drag and the shuttle would have started tilting from the ideal angle of attack. That could have caused the ship to overheat and disintegrate.

Dittemore said that even if the astronauts had gone out on an emergency spacewalk, there was no way a spacewalker could have safely checked under the wings, which bear the brunt of heat re-entry and have reinforced protection.

Even if they did find damage, there was nothing the crew could have done to fix it, he said.

``There's nothing that we can do about tile damage once we get to orbit,'' Dittemore said. ``We can't minimize the heating to the point that it would somehow not require a tile. So once you get to orbit, you're there and you have your tile insulation and that's all you have for protection on the way home from the extreme thermal heating during re-entry.''

The shuttle was not equipped with its 50-foot robot arm because it was not needed during this laboratory research mission, and so the astronauts did not have the option of using the arm's cameras to get a look at the damage.

NASA did not request help in trying to observe the damaged area with ground telescopes or satellites, in part because it did not believe the pictures would be useful, Dittemore.

Long-distance pictures did not help flight controllers when they wanted to see the tail of space shuttle Discovery during John Glenn's flight in 1998; the door for the drag-chute compartment had fallen off seconds after liftoff.

It was the second time in just four months that a piece of fuel-tank foam came off during a shuttle liftoff. In October, Atlantis lost a piece of foam that ended up striking the aft skirt of one of its solid-fuel booster rockets. At the time, the damage was thought to be superficial.

Dittemore said this second occurrence ``is certainly a signal to our team that something has changed.''


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To: OReilly
Sometimes, OReilly, there REALLY IS NOTHING THAT CAN BE DONE.

I don't buy it. Given a choice between a certain death and a possible death I'll choose the latter. How hard could it be to eject the load. Just unbolt the damn thing and let it drift away. At the very least you could give the crew time to put their affairs in order, and kept the thing away from populated areas. I am very pro NASA, and very disappointed by the attitude I saw on displayed yesterday.

These guys ignored the problem becuase they didn't have the guts to face it.
321 posted on 02/02/2003 10:03:19 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Swordmaker
>I think it might be better to remain ignorant of the extent of the UNREPAIRABLE DAMAGE and not have to make that horrible choice.

They still could have collected valuable data to save someone elses' lives. BTW I suspect NASA did use 'other assests' to take pics of the tiles.

322 posted on 02/02/2003 10:28:59 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: ARCADIA
I've never known NASA managers to ignore a problem, but I have seen them rationalize one. "It worked the last 50 times; tell me what's different this time" is a typical question.

My best guess is that is the logic was used this time. Nobody stood up and said, "All that past experience doesn't apply, this is the heaviest reentry we have ever tried".

After 27 years at NASA, I doubt that someone's heart was in the wrong place. Usually it's lack of communication. Hindsight is great, but never available when you really need it.
323 posted on 02/02/2003 10:33:39 AM PST by John Jamieson
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To: Dialup Llama
If you look at the super slow mo video, there was no doubt in my mind that the thing which broke away from the external tank was cutting a huge gash in the underside of the left wings. It just looked awful. The wing seems to have caught the object squarely and completly absorbed its energy.
324 posted on 02/02/2003 10:36:06 AM PST by Dialup Llama
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To: Dialup Llama
"BTW I suspect NASA did use 'other assests' to take pics of the tiles."

Very likely, it's been done before, but the photos were very low quality and this is black on black.

325 posted on 02/02/2003 10:36:36 AM PST by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
I'll grant you Hindsight. If that is all we had then it comes down to shit happens, and there is a certain risk in everything we do. But, if they knew about it, or, if they knew enough to give a reasonable person a concern, then they certainly should have done something.

No one expected the MIRs station to burn , to suffer a collision, or to go through half of the stuff it went through; yet somebody always seemed to find a way to keep it going. At the very least we could have kept them in orbit long enough to effect a rendezvous with the Russian shuttle that is scheduled to launch within weeks. The Russians may not have been able to rescue everyone. But, they certainly could have lessened the load on lifesupport and dropped off some key supplies. But, before anything can happen someone has to admit that they have a problem. If that was the real problem here then we have to clean house.
326 posted on 02/02/2003 10:52:07 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Swordmaker
The Delta V (their ability to change velocity and/or vector) on board the Columbia is severely limited. They literally did NOT HAVE ENOUGH to change the shape of their orbit so that it would reach the additional 115 miles altitude of the orbit of the ISS...

Perhaps the ISS could have deorbited to meet them instead? Or they could have met "half way". May or may not have been possible, but I want more than a blanket dismissal.

As for waiting around for a 'resecue mission', that also is not possible.

One argument would be no shuttle should be going up in the first place without provision for a rescue. If that's too expensive, then the whole concept should be reconsidered in the first place.

327 posted on 02/02/2003 11:00:01 AM PST by Henk
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To: gcochran
We're making progress. Jut a few hours ago you thought an EVA was impossible.

No, Gcochran, we are not making progress because you are totally stuck in the mud on this.

I STILL think it was impossible. You are being naive to think otherwise. Too much Hollywood has distorted your knowledge of the conditions in space. If they did not have a MMU with them, maneuvering would have just about impossible. That little hand held that Ed White used was powered from the umbilical.

You are again being naive to think that a resupply mission could be mounted in "a few days." It is much more difficult than getting a "bombed-out aircraft carrier ready for battle in three days..." A rocket booster capable of lifting the significant weight a resupply would require is not just your average ICBM or MX missile. You need to mate a non-existant cargo module to a multistage rocket system placed in an ideal launch local which means Canaveral. A decoupling mechanism to remove the cargo module from the last stage would have to be designed and work on the very first try. The rocket would have to be re-programmed for the rendezvous mission.You have to assure that the cargo module has guidance and maneuverability to assure docking speeds. Finally, if all of this miracle is accomplished and the supply ship is floating in space, you have crew that is UNTRAINED in ship-to-ship transfers of heavy objects. If, by some miracle, they get the tanks and other supplies inbaord without damaging the airlock seals, they still have to figure out how to refill the various systems which were not designed for weightless refilling in orbit. Oh, and they have to do all this without the specialized tools developed for in gravity use. Sometime read the reports of the astronauts that had to refit the Hubble and how difficult it was to simply unscrew a bolt in freefall.

According to the Boeing website for their newest "quick prep to launch" Delta IV Launch Vehicle which can lift 17,800 lbs of payload to Low Earth Orbit:

A key factor in meeting Air Force and commercial requirements for more launch slots and reduced launch costs is a new plan to process Delta IV rockets horizontally, away from the launch pad. This reduces pre-launch on-pad time to six to eight days, or up to 75 percent compared to Delta II.

And that doesn't count the time to figure out WHAT and HOW, plus transporting the Delta IV to Kennedy Space Flight Center for launch. Order lead time for this rocket is 16 months.

Resupply is NOT possible in the four to five days supply "cushion" allowed per shuttle for overtime on mission.

Refitting that aircraft carrier was child's play in comparison.

328 posted on 02/02/2003 12:29:38 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
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To: John Jamieson
Very likely, it's been done before, but the photos were very low quality and this is black on black.

Not necessarily "black on black". When I was permitted to handle (and destroy) a couple of tiles, my recollection is that the black tiles are only black on the outer glaze... but the inside is identical to the white tiles: white. If a gouge had been cut in the black under tiles I would expect to see white ceramic foam where the black glazed surface had been broken away.

329 posted on 02/02/2003 12:36:21 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
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To: ARCADIA
Atleast consider the possibility that Space Flight is really hard stuff and these people are the world's best at it.

The emotional ties to astronauts are much stronger, but actually more space workers (and several astronauts) have died in their cars just going to work.

I don't think 17 lost in space over almost 40 years is a bad record. What's NASCAR's record?
330 posted on 02/02/2003 1:35:01 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: Swordmaker
True the main tiles are black on white, but the leading edge is all black, carbon on carbon. It probably didn't start on the main tiles.

I just found a paper on reentry heating. Peak occurs at 18.03 mach ...... sounds familar. This vehicle was just a little too heavy?
331 posted on 02/02/2003 1:39:08 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: John Jamieson
John, I have no idea what Nascar's record might be; but, neither Nascar nor the guy driving to work, have thousands of support people and Billions of dollars to spend to mitigate the risk. This shouldn't be a fly-by-the-seat-of-the-pants business. The reason you have, and pay, for the ground team is specifically so that they are there to address issues. But that all goes to waste unless someone is willing to raise their hand and admit that they have a problem.

Not doing a check because you cannot repair missing tiles in space is simply a misuse of resources. Many of us heard them say precisely that at yesterday's news conference. Perhaps that was just a misstatement. I accept the loss as an inherent risk in the venture. By I reserve that I may be less accepting of how events unfolded on this mission. To have tried and failed is the natural course of things, to have ignored and failed is inexcusable. Time will tell.
333 posted on 02/02/2003 2:42:17 PM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: John Jamieson
Dow Jones is now saying NASA says there was a 60° rise in the mid-fuselage in 5 minutes, followed by an increased sign of drag that caused the flight control computer to make an adjustment to the flight pattern.
334 posted on 02/02/2003 2:54:52 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: John Jamieson
Do you know approximately how much extra oxygen and water a shuttle carries over the planned mission time? I know it is at least a few days, given the landing window issues, but it is extensively longer (i.e. weeks?)


335 posted on 02/02/2003 2:57:11 PM PST by WoofDog123
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To: Sub-Driver
Sure would have been nice if it was just "Glenn's Fireflies"
336 posted on 02/02/2003 3:10:27 PM PST by wharfrat
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To: WoofDog123
I watched the press conf too. The only question not asked was about the high reentry weight.

I'm very impressed with Ron Dittemore. I never meet him (retired 10 years ago), but this man was not in the john when the decisions were made. I couldn't help but compare his candor to the Eron creeps.

This was a very long mission already at 16 days, I would think there were only a few days of supplies left.

Originally the shuttle was designed for maximum missions of 21 days as I remember, but the actual stocking probably depends on the particular mission.
337 posted on 02/02/2003 4:05:07 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: ARCADIA
NASCAR has a worse record.

The NASA billions are spent to make it possible, not safer than car racing. You have unrealistic safety goals.
338 posted on 02/02/2003 4:07:34 PM PST by John Jamieson
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To: gcochran
If they had bothered to do an EVA...

How many time do I have to tell you it isn't a matter of "bother" but that they could NOT and it would NOT have given them useful information.

With NASA, nowadays, no things are possible.

You seem to think that ALL things are possible. They aren't.

339 posted on 02/02/2003 8:49:17 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
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To: gcochran
It doesbn't mean that there was no single avavailable and appropriate Russian rocket that was already three-quarters prepped for launch - and in fact there was one, with a cargo of consumables for the ISS.

Why is the ISS orbit placed at the high pitch it is? Simple, it is in that orbit to allow launches from Russia's Baikonur and Plesetsk Space Facilities. Could a launch from Baikur take up an orbit similar to the Columbia's? If it could, the ISS would be in the cheaper orbit

Might that give you a hint that the Russian resupply rocket (which is vitally needed for the survival of the three astronauts on the space station) would not be available for your mythical resupply trip???

340 posted on 02/02/2003 9:01:32 PM PST by Swordmaker (Tagline Extermination Services, franchises available, small investment, big profit)
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