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To: Timesink
Time is way off base. Fox news has an important paragraph in their story that may have the explanation.

The Fox News article is:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,77253,00.html

And it is posted under www.freerepublic under breaking news as "Space Shuttle Disintegrates over Texas".

I will post that URL in a moment.

But during liftoff, on January 16th, the Space Shuttle's wing was damaged.

Here is the paragraph that is key to explaining this disaster (in my opinion), and shows what junk TIME.COM is publishing:

Shortly after Columbia lifted off Jan. 16, a piece of insulating foam on its external fuel tank came off and was believed to have hit the left wing of the shuttle. Leroy Cain, the lead flight director in Mission Control, assured reporters Friday that engineers had concluded that any damage to the wing was considered minor and posed no safety hazard.

Basically, the wing was damaged on liftoff, and when the re-entry time came, the wing was put into "Maximum" stress by the initial re-entry -- 200,000 ft up at 12,000 mph.

So even minor damage at this speed can be disastrous.

Time reporters, as usual, are problably on dope.

If you read the Fox article, the key fact is there to be dug out.

3 posted on 02/01/2003 10:37:11 AM PST by topher
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To: topher
"would be an aerodynamic structural breakup of the shuttle caused by it rolling at the wrong angle. Remember, after reentry, the shuttle is descending without power"

This was EXACTLY the weakness I pointed to in my article, posted earlier, on the aerospace plane.

4 posted on 02/01/2003 10:40:10 AM PST by LS
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To: topher
And it is posted under www.freerepublic under breaking news as "Space Shuttle Disintegrates over Texas".

I will post that URL in a moment.

Here is the URL to the FreeRepublic Thread on the Fox News story (which is sound reporting), as opposed to the "trash" from TIME.COM, which just reported a $100 billion loss and Ted Turner stepping down as Vice Chairman.

URL:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/833975/posts

"Space Shuttle Disintegrates over Texas"

5 posted on 02/01/2003 10:42:11 AM PST by topher
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To: topher
Sounds like the area damaged was around the wheel well. Fits, Tire pressure was rising just before loss of contact. My idea is that that tire was being heated by burn through in the damaged area and when the tire blew it created the massive failure area that started breakup...
7 posted on 02/01/2003 10:43:49 AM PST by Axenolith (God bless our Spacefarers and Explorers...)
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To: topher
Basically, the wing was damaged on liftoff, and when the re-entry time came, the wing was put into "Maximum" stress by the initial re-entry -- 200,000 ft up at 12,000 mph.

I would have to see what this 'foam' is that hit the wing. If it is just a fiberglass puff foam, I do not see how it cold have damaged the leading edge. Even if it is a hard woven glass skin with foam underneath, I do not see how it could have damaged the wing, doesnt make sense.

BUT, since this is a material that has to survive liftoff heat and speed of wind, I imagine it had a hard shell, almost ceramic outside.

Anyone here got a link on just what that material is on the center tank?

13 posted on 02/01/2003 10:53:01 AM PST by RaceBannon
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To: topher
Former astronaut Richard Haucke was just on FOX, and he pointed out that the increase in tire pressue on the left side during re-entry may have been cause by heat. This may point to a problem with the heat tiles as a potential cause.

Based on what I've seen, it appears that there was a problem with the re-entry before the shuttle broke apart -- this is why I find the word "explosion" so annoying in this context. One of the video clips clearly shows the shuttle coming down sideways before the debris contrails start to appear.

18 posted on 02/01/2003 10:59:16 AM PST by Alberta's Child
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To: topher
http://science.ksc.nasa.gov/shuttle/technology/sts-newsref/et.html#et-tps

SRB DESCENT AND RECOVERY...

EXTERNAL TANK

The external tank contains the liquid hydrogen fuel and liquid oxygen oxidizer and supplies them under pressure to the three space shuttle main engines in the orbiter during lift-off and ascent. When the SSMEs are shut down, the ET is jettisoned, enters the Earth's atmosphere, breaks up, and impacts in a remote ocean area. It is not recovered.

The largest and heaviest (when loaded) element of the space shuttle, the ET has three major components: the forward liquid oxygen tank, an unpressurized intertank that contains most of the electrical components, and the aft liquid hydrogen tank. The ET is 153.8 feet long and has a diameter of 27.6 feet.

Beginning with the STS-6 mission, a lightweight ET was introduced. Although future tanks may vary slightly, each will weigh approximately 66,000 pounds inert. The last heavyweight tank, flown on STS-7, weighed approximately 77,000 pounds inert. For each pound of weight reduced from the ET, the cargo-carrying capability of the space shuttle spacecraft is increased almost one pound. The weight reduction was accomplished by eliminating portions of stringers (structural stiffeners running the length of the hydrogen tank), using fewer stiffener rings and by modifying major frames in the hydrogen tank. Also, significant portions of the tank are milled differently to reduce thickness, and the weight of the ET's aft solid rocket booster attachments were reduced by using a stronger, yet lighter and less expensive titanium alloy. Earlier several hundred pounds were eliminated by deleting the anti-geyser line. The line paralleled the oxygen feed line and provided a circulation path for liquid oxygen to reduce accumulation of gaseous oxygen in the feed line while the oxygen tank was being filled before launch. After propellant loading data from ground tests and the first few space shuttle missions was assessed, the anti- geyser line was removed for STS-5 and subsequent missions. The total length and diameter of the ET remain unchanged.

The ET is attached to the orbiter at one forward attachment point and two aft points. In the aft attachment area, there are also umbilicals that carry fluids, gases, electrical signals and electrical power between the tank and the orbiter. Electrical signals and controls between the orbiter and the two solid rocket boosters also are routed through those umbilicals.

LIQUID OXYGEN TANK

INTERTANK

LIQUID HYDROGEN TANK

ET THERMAL PROTECTION SYSTEM

ET HARDWARE

ET RANGE SAFETY SYSTEM

Return to KSC Home Page Table of Contents


Information content from the NSTS Shuttle Reference Manual (1988)
Last Hypertexed Thursday August 31 09:40:49 EDT 2000
Jim Dumoulin (dumoulin@titan.ksc.nasa.gov)

21 posted on 02/01/2003 11:02:10 AM PST by RaceBannon
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