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Columbia Discussion thread
Feb 1, 2003

Posted on 02/01/2003 8:41:00 AM PST by Admin Moderator

Edited on 02/01/2003 9:11:45 AM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

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Mission - sts107


This is a continuation of the original thread.

Shuttle Contact LOST-No Tracking Data During RE-Entry!

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TOPICS: Breaking News
KEYWORDS: columbia; columbiatragedy; feb12003; india; israel; nasa; shuttle; spaceshuttle; sts107; unitedstates
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To: snopercod
if she had been a white male it would have never made the news.
601 posted on 02/01/2003 10:32:43 AM PST by MilspecRob
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Thanks Joe.......look at post 593. Might be of interest.
602 posted on 02/01/2003 10:32:55 AM PST by Dog
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To: hole_n_one
#517 - you forgot the barf alert! Yuck, there goes lunch.
603 posted on 02/01/2003 10:33:11 AM PST by mombonn
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To: ladysusan
a piece of curved metal the size of the bed of a pick up truck.

Larger pieces of the shuttle will certainly be found. I was responding to a post asking about remains of the astronauts. I've done recovery on civilian aircraft that came down from about 10,000 feet. The shuttle was much higher and apparently involved an explosion and breakup before impact, so the dynamics of this are much different. In my experience, decent size pieces of the craft may be found, but the people are a different story. This isn't the thread for detailed discussion, so I was trying to give an idea without being too descriptive.

604 posted on 02/01/2003 10:33:19 AM PST by Richard Kimball
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To: dep
"landing gear door"

Interesting ...?? I had not heard that report so far.
605 posted on 02/01/2003 10:34:32 AM PST by CyberAnt ( Syracuse where are you?)
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To: Dog
Roger that......
606 posted on 02/01/2003 10:35:03 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: CyberAnt
Could have been a major tile failure over the landing gear door..
607 posted on 02/01/2003 10:35:40 AM PST by Dog
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To: Arkinsaw
"How about I don't."

That's not my call. I just made a friendly suggestion, but if your ego demands that you behave in that manner, there isn't anything I or anyone else can say to you that will make you change your behavior.

Go ahead and show us what you are made of...you are only sticking your thumb in your own eye.

608 posted on 02/01/2003 10:35:43 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: Jennifer in Florida
According to FAS, some sample maximum altitudes for missiles:

Patriot PAC-2 (the follow-on to the Scud-"buster" in Desert Storm) - 24,000 meters (79,000 feet)

SA-2 (of U-2 and Vietnam "fame") - 27,000 to 40,000 meters (89,000-132,000 feet)

SA-10 (S-300P, rough equivalent to the Patriot) - 30,000 meters (99,000 feet).

All of these are significantly short of the 200,000 feet the Columbia was at when it broke apart.

609 posted on 02/01/2003 10:35:51 AM PST by steveegg
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To: Richard Kimball
what remains are found depends on whether the pressure vessel itself broke up. in, for instance, sts-51l, it remained intact until it hit the ocran, following aerodynamic forces that broke the shuttle all to pieces.

they now have smoking craters, so i suspect that it's possible, even likely, that the pressure vessel hit intact.

dep

610 posted on 02/01/2003 10:36:09 AM PST by dep
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To: Howlin
Fox showing major smoking crater on the ground.
611 posted on 02/01/2003 10:36:19 AM PST by valleygal (Please sign www.PetitionOnline.com/adalert for missing adults.)
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To: Dog
Please dog, if you or anyone else here any further about those photographers on the west coast, let me know.
612 posted on 02/01/2003 10:36:39 AM PST by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Richard Kimball
Ah. I didn't read it, I just skimmed it.
My uncle used to investigate plave crashes back in the 60s. Out of Huntsville. Bless you my friend.
613 posted on 02/01/2003 10:36:44 AM PST by ladysusan
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To: Dog
That was my guess earlier - I'll stick ith that until more detailed info comes in...
614 posted on 02/01/2003 10:36:49 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks (We've got Armadillos in our trousers. It's really quite frightening.)
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To: Chi-townChief
Well ... I'm just waiting for some dippy democrat to say that x42 never had this opportunity to look presidential.

If any of them do - I can guarantee you THEY WILL NOT ONLY LOSE IN 2004 - THEY WILL LOSE B I G!!!
615 posted on 02/01/2003 10:36:58 AM PST by CyberAnt ( Syracuse where are you?)
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To: HighWheeler
Idiot.
616 posted on 02/01/2003 10:37:58 AM PST by Lurking2Long
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To: Howlin
Could be, but his response wasn't much better. I think we are all a bit out of sorts today.
617 posted on 02/01/2003 10:38:14 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Stir the pot...don't let anything settle to the bottom where the lawyers can feed off of it!)
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To: steveegg; All
MSNBC is playing the last communications from the shuttle...

They were in a 57% bank to the left..

Tire pressure sensor went off.......then you hear the sounds of the break up...

618 posted on 02/01/2003 10:38:15 AM PST by Dog
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To: valleygal
Where is that?
619 posted on 02/01/2003 10:38:38 AM PST by Howlin
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To: Redleg Duke
Go ahead and show us what you are made of...you are only sticking your thumb in your own eye.

I think not. If somebody posts something like that I'm going to question what they meant by it and not ignore it. Thats just how it is.
620 posted on 02/01/2003 10:38:49 AM PST by Arkinsaw
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