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To: RayBob
The title is misleading. These six didn't "turn against Bush" they were against drilling all along. In addition, Sen. Specter is also on record as being opposed to drilling in ANWAR.
50 posted on 01/31/2003 11:53:00 AM PST by Russ
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To: Russ
I know that there are those against ANWR drilling, on both sides of the isle, which is why I would prefer to see a seperate vote that would be recorded for posterity. Those who voted for independence from foriegn oil and those (on both sides) who voted against it.

Frankly, I think that there are some fence sitters that may not want to be on the record voting no. THAT'S why I wnat it.

So in this case, I have no problem with the 6 "RINOS" who want this in its own bill. Besides, once there's a record, there will (hopefully) be accountability. Back door tricks cost you that potential accountability.

73 posted on 01/31/2003 12:06:42 PM PST by RayBob (Put your ad here!)
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To: Russ
so is the republican senator from oregon... gordon smith.


we don't have the votes to win this.
if smith voted for this just ONCE... we would lose his seat. GUARANDAMNTEED.


Environmentalism is a religion, just like abortionism.
It has become a massive federally supported institutionalized faith of sorts.
It is also the home of the communist party. Since the "environment" is a "community property" that cannot be anything other than shared... this religion is a 'natural' vehicle for promoting the socialist agenda.

Until we change hearts we are going to be stuck with it. EV (environmentalism) and the "common good" (communism) will have to be confronted in a MAJOR way. It will be hard because none of us actually want to destroy our air or water; or kill all the fruit flies. But EVERY issue to the EV religion, is a matter of "killing our animals destroying our air and water" desperation.

And our public schools are pumping out these emotionally driven, "don't kill my kitty cat", "meat is murder" or "save the dolphin" dolts, en masse.

Changing minds of folks who are hooked on an extremist religions like radical islam, or EV... involves a lot of persuasion, and sometimes force.

120 posted on 01/31/2003 12:45:05 PM PST by Robert_Paulson2 (clintonsgotusbytheballs?)
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