France is no Eurowimp

National Post ^ | 30 Jan 2003 | Mark Steyn

[Rummyfan]

France is no Eurowimp

Mark Steyn National Post

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Let's say you're the head of government of a middle-rank power. You have no feelings one way or the other on the morality of things, that being a simplistic Texan cowboy concept. What then should your line on Iraq be?

The first question to ask yourself is: Is Bush serious about war? If your answer is yes, the next question is: Will he win that war?

Answer: Yes, and very quickly. You know that, even if the drooling quagmire predictors of the press don't. So the next question is: How will the Iraqi people feel about it?

Answer: They'll be dancing in the streets. You know that, even if Susan Sarandon and Ed Asner don't. They don't know because, although the "peace" movement claims to be standing shoulder to shoulder with the Iraqi people, no Iraqi person wants to put his shoulder anywhere near them. They know the scale of Saddam's murder and torture. And once the vaults are unpadlocked so will the rest of the world. So the obvious question is: If, for the cost of chipping in a couple of fighter jets, you can pass yourself off as an heroic co-liberator of a monstrous tyranny and position yourself for a big piece of the economic action from the new regime, why not go for it? It would appear to be, in the ghastly vernacular of the cretinous Yanks, a "no-brainer."

Ah, but for those with a big sophisticated Continental brain it's all more complicated than that. There are many idiotic incoherent leaders in the world, several of them francophone (hint), but Jacques Chirac is not among them. Say what you like about M. le President -- call him irresponsible, call him unreliable, throw in shifty, devious, corrupt, and almost absurdly conceited. But he's not stupid. The issue for the French is very straightforward: What's in it for us?

The answer to that may vary, but frame the question as a negative and the reply is always the same: What's not in it for France is that America should emerge with its present pre-eminence even more enhanced. France is in the business of la gloire de la republique, and right now the main obstacle to that is the post-Soviet unipolar geopolitical settlement. They are not temperamentally suited to being anyone's sidekick: If Tony Blair wants to play Athens to America's Rome, or Tonto to Bush's Lone Ranger, or Sandy the dog to Dubya's Little Orphan Annie, fine. The French aren't interested in any awards for Best Supporting Actor.

This isn't quite the same as being a bunch of spineless appeasers. As far as I can see, American pop culture only ever has room for one joke about the French. For three decades, the Single French Joke was that they were the guys who thought Jerry Lewis was a genius. I don't particularly see the harm in that myself, at least when compared to thinking, say, Jean-Paul Sartre is a genius. But, since September 11th, the new Single French Joke has been that they're "cheese-eating surrender monkeys," a phrase introduced on The Simpsons but greatly popularized by Jonah Goldberg of National Review. Jonah, you'll recall, recently flayed us Canadians for being a bunch of northern pussies, but it's a measure of the contempt in which he holds our D-list Dominion that we didn't even merit a pithy four-word sneer-in-a-can.

The trouble is the cheese-eating surrender paradigm is insufficient. If you want to go monkey fishing, there's certainly no shortage of Eurowimps: Since the unpleasantness of 60 years ago, the Germans have become as aggressively and obnoxiously pacifist as they once were militarist; they loathe their own armed forces, never mind anybody else's. But France is one of only five official nuclear powers in the world, a status it takes seriously. When Greenpeace were interfering with French nuclear tests in the Pacific, they blew up the damn boat. Even I, a right-wing detester of the eco-loonies, would balk at killing the buggers.

A few weeks ago, there was a spot of bother in Ivory Coast. Don't ask me what's going on: President Wossname represents the southern Wotchamacallit tribe and they're unpopular with natives in the northern province of Hoogivsadam. Something like that. But next thing you know, French troops have locked down the entire joint and forced both parties into a deeply unpopular peace deal that suits the Quai d'Orsay but nobody else. All of this while the UN is hunkered down in a month-long debate on whether to approve Article IV Sub-section 7.3 (d) of Hans Blix's hotel bill. Ivory Coast is nominally a sovereign state. The French have no more right to treat it as a colony than the British have to treat Iraq as a colony. But they do. And they don't care what you think about it.

So they're not appeasing Saddam. On the matter of Islamic terrorists killing American office workers and American forces killing Iraqi psychopaths, they are equally insouciant. Let's say Saddam has long-range WMDs. If he nuked Montpelier (Vermont), M. Chirac would insist that Bush needed to get a strong Security Council resolution before responding. If he nuked Montpellier (France), Iraq would be a crater by lunchtime.

It's true that for a couple of centuries the French have not performed impressively on the battlefield per se. But even a surrender monkey can wind up king of the swingers. In the Second World War, half of France was occupied, the rest was run by a collaborationist regime; there were a couple of dozen in the French Resistance listening to the BBC under the bed, and a gazillion on the other side, enthusiastically shipping Jews east. And yet, miracle of miracles, in the post-war order France wound up with one of only five UN Security Council vetoes. Canada did far more heavy lifting and was far more deserving of a seat at the top table. But the point is, despite being deeply compromised and tainted, the French came out a big winner.

Their next ingenious wheeze was to co-opt the new Germany, a country with formidable economic muscle but paralyzed by self-doubt. Overlooked in last week's fuss about Schroeder and Chirac's thumbs-down to Bush was the real meat of their confab: the proposal to create a merged Franco-German citizenship. There's already a "European" citizenship, largely meaningless at the moment but intended (or so it was assumed) to be a legal identity that would eventually supersede national citizenship. Now Schroeder and Chirac have effectively announced that at the heart of the European Union will be a Franco-German superstate of 140 million people around which the Dutch and Austrians and other minor satellites cluster like the princely states around British India.

Even the ostensibly risible constitutional proposal that there should be two Presidents of Europe has a kind of sense: one will be, as a general rule, French or, if necessary, German; the other will be some nonentity from Luxembourg or Denmark. Whatever you think of all this, it's not the behaviour of surrender monkeys. A year ago, David Warren dismissed Canada and other fence-sitters as "spectators in their own fates." That's not the French. The startling suggestion that the French government will fund and run state mosques, in order to obstruct the malign spread of Saudi Wahhabism, may sound kooky to American ears. But to sly French Machiavels, it has the potential of neutering the potential Muslim threat as thoroughly as they permanently neutered the German threat.

Meanwhile, the peacenik predisposition of the other Continentals is a useful cover for French ambition. Last year Paavo Lipponen, the Finnish Prime Minister, declared that "the EU must not develop into a military superpower but must become a great power that will not take up arms at any occasion in order to defend its own interests." This sounds insane. But, to France, it has a compelling logic. You can't beat the Americans on the battlefield, but you can tie them down limb by limb in the UN and other supranational bodies.

In other words, this is the war, this is the real battlefield, not the sands of Mesopotamia. And, on this terrain, Americans always lose. Either they win but get no credit, as in Afghanistan. Or they win a temporary constrained victory to be subverted by subsequent French machinations, as in the last Gulf War. This time round, who knows? But through it all France is admirably upfront in its unilateralism: It reserves the right to treat French Africa as its colonies, Middle Eastern dictators as its clients, the European Union as a Greater France and the UN as a kind of global condom to prevent the spread of Americanization. All this it does shamelessly and relatively effectively. It's time the rest of the West was so clear-sighted.

[twyn1]

But once Sadaam is gone so too is the identity of being an "Iraqi" and that is where the problems will start.

Hmmm...not sure what you're trying to say here...the U.S. does not act as an "Empire" -- Was the identity of being French gone after WW II ?? or German ?? Why haven't we "taken over" Mexico (oil and plenty of agriculture there), or even Puerto Rico and the Virgin Islands ? If we are so determined to have a power base in the ME, why did Bush (41) bow to pressure and agree to leave Saddam in power, when it would have taken very little to push further and remove him, despite the whining of the press and others ("Highway of Death" crap, etc.)...

[MeekOneGOP]

Let's say you're the head of government of a middle-rank power. You have no feelings one way or the other on the morality of things, that being a simplistic Texan cowboy concept. What then should your line on Iraq be?

The first question to ask yourself is: Is Bush serious about war? If your answer is yes, the next question is: Will he win that war?

Answer: Yes, and very quickly. You know that, even if the drooling quagmire predictors of the press don't. So the next question is: How will the Iraqi people feel about it?

Answer: They'll be dancing in the streets...

That is my thinking exactly. Just like in Afghanistan when it was liberated from the Taliban...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/727005/posts?page=92#92

http://www.guardian.co.uk/gall/0,8542,596125,00.html

Dancing in Herat
Afghans dance to celebrate the victory of the Northern Alliance in Herat, vacated by the Taliban on November 12.
Photo: Hasan Sarbakhshian, AP

November 16 2001: Afghanistan after the Taliban

Watching football
Afghans in their house in Herat watch the World Cup qualifying football match between Iran and Ireland on satellite TV on November 15. Television was banned under the Taliban.
Photo: Hasan Sarbakhshian, AP

November 16 2001: Afghanistan after the Taliban

Showing their faces
An Afghan woman and her daughter visit Kabul zoo. Under the Taliban they were not allowed to visit the zoo or show their faces.
Photo: Marco Di Lauro, AP

November 16 2001: Afghanistan after the Taliban

[Dionysius]

The French submarine "Tricolor" is sinking a lot of shipping!

[from occupied ga]

Maybe the taliban were on to something about the women not showing their faces.

[Britton J Wingfield]

Was the identity of being French gone after WW II ?? or German ??

Iraq is a lot more like Yugoslavia than France. It's made of several distinct peoples held together by a brutal strongman. That said, I think federalism could work for them, but we'd need to enforce it for a while.

You are correct that we are not an empire. If we were, we'd still own France, Germany, and we'd have taken Iraq 12 years ago and kept it.

[MeekOneGOP]

This isn't quite the same as being a bunch of spineless appeasers. As far as I can see, American pop culture only ever has room for one joke about the French. For three decades, the Single French Joke was that they were the guys who thought Jerry Lewis was a genius. I don't particularly see the harm in that myself, at least when compared to thinking, say, Jean-Paul Sartre is a genius. But, since September 11th, the new Single French Joke has been that they're "cheese-eating surrender monkeys," a phrase introduced on The Simpsons but greatly popularized by Jonah Goldberg of National Review. Jonah, you'll recall, recently flayed us Canadians for being a bunch of northern pussies, but it's a measure of the contempt in which he holds our D-list Dominion that we didn't even merit a pithy four-word sneer-in-a-can.

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French PM: "It's Great to Be Collaborating with Germany Again!"

[MeekOneGOP]

...a simplistic Texan cowboy concept. What then should your line on Iraq be?

The first question to ask yourself is: Is Bush serious about war? If your answer is yes, the next question is: Will he win that war?

[MeekOneGOP]

Arms Inspector Meets With Saddam Hussein

[Savage Beast]

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha! Oh Mark, please don't write any more! Hahahahaha! I can't stand it! I'm rolling on hahahaha floor... Hahahahaha! Can't stand up... Hahaha! My knees hahaha are so hahahaha! Oh please! Hahaha! Don't write any more! Hahahahaha!

[Fedupwithit]

Homer Simpson:

Lisa, weaseling out of things is important to learn. It's what seperates us from the animals.

...except the weasel.."

just classic stuff

[babaloo999]

They do have nuclear capabilities. Could be trouble when the muslims take over the country.

[F.J. Mitchell]

France is where they insert the suppository when the earth's hemorrorids flare up.

[Burkeman1]

Yes- the fact that we didn't impose colonial governors in Germany and France after WWII and force them to learn English means we are not empire- like that would have ever been considered? Never mind the 30 different countries around the globe we have troops or naval bases in. Never mind the "states" we prop up with puppets and the complient ruling elites we grease with foreign aid that never makes it to where it is intended to go. As for staying in Iraq 12 years ago- that was never in the cards as it was a condition of the coalition that Sadaam stay in power and we were only authorized to get him out of Kuwait. But forget even the coalition. We wanted Sadaam in power. We didn't want a religious and ethnic war in the heart of the ME to threaten the shakey regimes we already prop up there- namely Saudi Arabia. And we stayed in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait after he was out- and this is what ticked off OBL and AQ and lead directly to 9/11. But nevermind. We will go into Iraq- yet another Muslem land (this one containing the second largest oil reserve in the world no less) filled with "infidel" troops. No- that is not another talking point for AQ recruitment centers at all. I wonder who wants this war more- AQ or Bush?

IMO- we would have been better off if Iraq had taken Kuwait and Saudi Arabia back in 91'. I doubt 9/11 would have happened.

[<1/1,000,000th%]

Interesting...

[yendu bwam]

PS- France does treat West Africa like a colony only without the benefits of actual law and order. They intervene to protect their corporate interests and back any thug who will keep the "peace". The French prop up the currency of a dozen west african states.

Having spent some years in West Africa, I was shocked to discover how truly racist many French are - to the point of refusing to sit with Africans at bars, as an example. The French were truly despised by most Africans I knew. They loved Americans - even when they disagreed with American foreign policy. Nobody likes the French in my experience, except the French themselves.

[paul51]

Anyone who refers to the World War as the unpleasantness loses me on the merits

[Nonstatist]

Except for the last part about French "machinations" screwing up the last Gulf War

The word he used was subverting, and its true. They signed all these clandestine oil deals , through the UN auspices, with Sadaam. They and the Russians dont want war for mercantile reasons. These "deals" are a subversion of the ceasefire agreement.

[Burkeman1]

It has been my experience that Europeons in general are far more racist than Americans in private. It is their governments that put the lid on this racism by making it criminal.

[Siobhan]

Please would you give me a link or a source on this. I have heard various versions of the bauxite story before but have never found evidence for it.

[VaBthang4]

I love Steyn but I will not stomach a defense of France under any circumstance or perspective.

They've had some fifty years to dig this hole and one article doesnt do much to bring them out of it.