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2 posted on
01/31/2003 7:45:12 AM PST by
chance33_98
(Freedom is not Free)
To: chance33_98
"We've got to start somewhere," he said. He's kidding, right?
3 posted on
01/31/2003 7:47:40 AM PST by
Carry_Okie
(The environment is too complex and too important to be managed by politics.)
To: chance33_98
I guess the next logical step will be to make it illegal to smoke in your home if you have children.
5 posted on
01/31/2003 7:49:57 AM PST by
mr.pink
To: chance33_98
Public smoking bans are stupid, but this is a little bit different.
The average driver today is TOO STUPID to handle driving! I've moved to the East Coast (Virginia) and things are even worse here than they were back in Washington.
It's sad to say, but the average driver today really does not have enough intelligence, coordination, or capacity (WHATEVER you want to call it!) to handle both the tasks of road safety management and tobacco consumption management at the same time.
I don't know how many times some dumbass has come within 8 inches of me and then I see him look up from lighting his cigarette!
It's a silly ban but I wouldn't fight against it. Cell phone users without hands-free equipment are the worst offenders of all. I've had to get out of my car to yell at a couple of them. Really I wish the state legislature would stop worrying so much about people who want to smoke a cigarette or drink a coke in their car and go after these schmucks who need to buy a $300 car phone instead of pulling over and making 50 cent calls but WILL NOT buy a $10 attachment that allows them to get the thing out of their face and look at the road while they drive!
I'm sure MANY more kids are killed by idiot drivers who have something more important to pay attention to than the road than are killed by second hand smoke every year.
To: chance33_98
Exactly how are they going to enforce this? Police smoking road blocks? Please - where is the common sense?
10 posted on
01/31/2003 8:18:51 AM PST by
Gerish
To: chance33_98
Democrat Paul Smith
BUT OF COURSE A COMMIE RAT
13 posted on
01/31/2003 8:27:55 AM PST by
TLBSHOW
(just a internet liberal; basher that is hated by the leftwing nuts!)
To: chance33_98
It won't end at vehicles, the home is next. At that point they will never stop legislating big brother laws "for the sake of the kids", even down to the content of what is watched on tv if the kiddies are around. Of course the police won't come knocking on everyone's door to ensure compliance, they'll just use teachers, doctors, or any other convenient stooge to report to the authorities whenever some kid tells them their parents have been naughty.
To: chance33_98
Oh, c'mon on now, you're all not naive enough to think that your personal choices don't affect anybody but you?
18 posted on
01/31/2003 8:44:18 AM PST by
Wolfie
(I love this stuff...)
To: chance33_98
This isn't gonna win me any points here on FR, but this is one I am OK with...adults should be able to smoke...no problem. But there is defintely something wrong with seeing parents puffing away on cigaretts with a few tiny little kids in the back seat having no choice in the matter...to me that is a form of child abuse. No doubt about it.
I see it all the time, and it is disgusting that someone should subject children to so much pollution at such a young age. Especially in the winter I have seen it without the car windows even open.
Does anyone really think that cigarettes don't cause health problems?
To: chance33_98
Can we ban Democrat Paul Smith?
24 posted on
01/31/2003 8:53:54 AM PST by
ewing
To: chance33_98
"This is just protecting the kids...Mmmm, seems I've seen this before. Deja Vu??
25 posted on
01/31/2003 8:54:15 AM PST by
EGPWS
To: chance33_98
A logical next step would be rolling down the window of your car with a child occupant, when there is another car emitting exhaust infront of you, or driving with a child in an area that had been set on fire by the Forest Services as a "controlled burn." It's all about control and not about pollution.
To: chance33_98
This goes to show that the five most beautiful words in the English language are those that begin the First Amendment, "Congress shall pass no law...." and the scariest phrase in the English language is "I have introduced legislation."
To: chance33_98
"Officer, did you see that drunken driver weaving all over the road. Sorry lady, I haven't met my quota of smokers yet today"
To: chance33_98
Paul Smith clearly doesn't have enogh productive work to do and should be removed from the government payroll
39 posted on
01/31/2003 9:13:00 AM PST by
Moleman
To: chance33_98
Democrat Paul Smith proposed the bill to make it a misdemeanor to smoke in a vehicle where a child is restrained in a car seat. The misdemeanor would carry a fine and include cigars, cigarettes and pipes.And how many taxpayers dollars does Mr. Smith think will be spent on enforcement of this "feel good" legislation?
Where does Mr. Smith think these dollars are going to be found in the state budget?
Oh it's for the children. Sorry, never mind. Spare no expense!!!
To: chance33_98
Again---tobacco smokers, welcome to the party. We'll slide over a bit, there's plenty of room around here.
Love,
The Dopers
To: chance33_98
This BS may fly in New York City. But down here in Georgia this guy is committing political suicide by supporting this.
To: chance33_98
"We've got to start somewhere," he said.I agree.
Why doesn't he start in hell and if he climbs out of it, then we can talk.
56 posted on
01/31/2003 9:47:43 AM PST by
A2J
(If all else fails, blame it on someone else.)
To: chance33_98
In Hong Kong the adults smoke about 3 times as many cigarettes per capita as the americans do. Yet in Hong Kong people live longer than in the US. Maybe they don't worry so much about monitoring and regulating the activities of others, maybe that's why they live longer.
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