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To: stevem
"Will that religion ever mature into something to make its members justifiably proud?"

No religion ever rises above or transcends that upon which it is built. Islam is built on the twisted delusions of a self-absorbed, warmongering predophile with serious control "issues". Islam is a demon-worshipping death cult.

So in response to your question, I guess it would just depend on what its followers deem worthy of pride.

17 posted on 01/31/2003 6:14:27 AM PST by sweetliberty (Go Al, go!)
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To: sweetliberty
So in response to your question, I guess it would just depend on what its followers deem worthy of pride.

I tend to agree with you. Although I have never read the Koran, I always wonder if there are any devout Muslims that aren't consumed with hubris and hatred and envy. These days it doesn't seem like it. It seems like there ought to be and possibly some theologans that can make the scriptures say they are accepting and decent.

I should make a slight disclaimer here and state that I am a practicing Catholic. These days we have a glass house or two about, although I've never heard ANY homily suggesting that the kids in the parish ought to strap on some dynamite and go blow up some pagans.

I should also note that if I were alive at the time of the Borgias, and educated enough to see what was happening, I'd likey have converted and followed Martin Luther.

Finally, I always thought it would have been the best of good humor to strap inquisitors to the rack, put them through the paces and, then, half drown them. It would be the best of fun to see the look on a face of a torturer, when he is on the receiving end. Those already tortured could be the ones to show them what it's like.

The Catholic Church has a wart ot two in it's history when it simply turned its back on the Gospels, and the entire new testament. Yet somewhere along the way it has matured or tried to into a religion of decency, at least. That may be a never ending struggle, but you have to start somewhere.

23 posted on 01/31/2003 7:01:58 PM PST by stevem
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