To: MHGinTN
No nerve and brain development mean a Blastocyst is not a person yet. At 7 weeks they can feel pleasure and pain so after that point im willing to consider them a person. Not before.
48 posted on
01/31/2003 11:44:05 AM PST by
weikel
(We will prevail in peace and freedom from fear, by the purity of our natural fluids)
To: weikel
You've mix the 'metaphors'. First you deny the characterization 'individual human life' is present immediately following fecundation, but you've changed your focus to 'personhood' ... No nerve and brain development mean a Blastocyst is not a person yet. Personhood is a subjective characterization, as evidenced by the legal notion that an American citizen comes into view with birth.
56 posted on
01/31/2003 12:00:44 PM PST by
MHGinTN
(If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote Life Support for others.)
To: weikel
No nerve and brain development mean a Blastocyst is not a person yet. At 7 weeks they can feel pleasure and pain so after that point im willing to consider them a person. Not before.Why do you guys ALWAYS change the wording from "life" to "person"? Is it an attempt to assuage a guilty conscience? The comment is "human life begins at conception", not "personhood begins at conception".
Just a side note - but for the sake of argument I will use your terminology.
So, you have pinpointed the exact time that a "blastocyst" turns into a "person", right? You know this for absolute fact, correct? No ifs, ands or buts. So, 48 days, 23 hours and 59 seconds after conception it's just a ball of cells and miraculously one second later the "personhood fairy" comes down from the sky and grants that this ball of cells is now a life.
Do you not understand the absurdity of your argument?
To: weikel
Your definition of person is not a scientific one, merely an assertation of which humans are human enough to be considered "persons."
That is pure discrimination based on stage of development in a normal member of the species. And by this, you would consider allowing these human beings to be killed by those you consider "persons"?
178 posted on
02/02/2003 9:44:02 PM PST by
hocndoc
To: weikel
At 7 weeks they can feel pleasure and pain so after that point im willing to consider them a person. My cat can feel pleasure and pain. Should it have the same rights as you and me?
208 posted on
02/02/2003 11:13:27 PM PST by
beavus
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