AMBROSE EVANS-PRITCHARD: 'New Europe' reads riot act to Paris and Berlin

The Daily Telegraph ^ | January 31, 2003 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

[MadIvan]

"New Europe" reading the riot act:

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Regards, Ivan

[MadIvan]

Bump!

[Billthedrill]

"New Europe" was always there, Ivan, just needed a little example. Not ours. Yours. Up the Brits!

[DoughtyOne]

Go former Eastern Block members...

[Shermy]

Looks like Rumsfeld off the cuff "old/new Europe" remark struck a nerve for some, rang a bell for others.

[Paraclete]

Either wittingly or unwittingly, Rumsfeld seems to have tapped a powerful undercurrent in Europolitics. Seems the Emperor (France/Germany) had no clothes.

[chilepepper]

The Czech Republic: what Germany might look like if it actually had a soul...

[PhiKapMom]

Thanks for posting! This just gets better and better!

[expatpat]

This is what Hitler tried to do. Perhaps neo-National-Socialists might be a better term than "Old Europe'.

[expatpat]

Nor is "Old Europe" necessarily a good description for two countries that launched the most ambitious currency union ever seen a year ago and are now pushing for the wildly ambitious goal of a full judicial, military and diplomatic union of 15 states, with different languages and intense tribal loyalties.....

This is what Hitler wanted. Perhaps 'neo-National-Socialists' is a better description than 'Old Europe'.

[ffusco]

Simply masterful. The assumption that Europe's destiny is to become a union of nation states ruled from Paris or Berlin have just gone up in smoke. All thanks to 8 nations in Europe who know their survival depends on the US.

[GermanBabies]

The Czech Republic: what Germany might look like if it actually had a soul... Good one! All the Germans care about is themselves. We stood on the wall protecting them for 50 years and then they put their foot to our ass for thanks.

[Bernard]

And I just can't help but wonder, given the events of the previous century, why anybody is anxious for Germany to build up arms and start shooting in the first place.

[Jeff Chandler]

The French have always been ingrates. I'm sad to see the Germans turn French.

[usconservative]

Either wittingly or unwittingly, Rumsfeld seems to have tapped a powerful undercurrent in Europolitics. Seems the Emperor (France/Germany) had no clothes.

Rumsfeld is far too intelligent for this to have been an "unwitting" comment. He knew exactly what he was doing, and exactly what he was saying - to France and Germany.

I repeat: "The Course of this great nation does not depend on the decisions of others." - President George W. Bush, State of the Union Address

[knews_hound]

I wanted to take a moment to thank you Ivan for all of the EU posts you make. I read them regularly and I know I speak for a great many Freepers who thank you for your efforts.

Thanks !

Cheers,

knews hound

[usconservative]

The French have always been ingrates.

True enough. They've also always been cowards. Remember, they surrendered after a mere 6 weeks of fighting Adolf Hitler in WW2. If it wasn't for the good ol' USA, they'd be speaking German eating Sauerkraut and Sausage for dinner nightly now.

They've never properly thanked the USA properly (IMO) and they deserve the verbal SPIT IN THE EYE that Rumsfeld and President Bush have given them the last few days.

The cowards. All they can do is talk, yak and complain. Lord knows they can't fight worth a damn'. They're called "Euro-Trash" for a reason.

[GermanBabies]

The Germans remind me of rebellious, depressed teenagers that have posters of Mao and Castro in their bedrooms. The only problem is that 50 year-old Germans who should know better are acting this way.

[Ichabod Walrus]

Britain's economy is now substantially bigger than that of France, and London is by far the richest city in Europe. The Irish are richer per capita than the Germans.

Yes, this is as fine an example of how the mentally handicapped deal with their problems - by writing articles which seek to deny reality. Britain's economy is so large that pensions go unpaid; hospitals and schools close, skilled professionals go to Germany and Saudi Arabia seeking work etc.

Oh yes, Ireland is richer per capita than Germany if you can't see past your pint of Guinness, which those suffering from "mad cow disease" should stay clear of anyway.

[GermanBabies]

Germany's economy is going down the toliet.