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To: Right Wing Professor
You haven't demonstrated that the bacteria evolved. Only that it had taken on a resistance to penicillin after it's structure was artifically altered.

Evolution states that an organism will evolve as the "need" arises. Looks to me that your bacteria in the control dish (the ones that died) couldn't evolve without outside influence even though there was a definite need.

You have once again proven the Intelligent Creator theory. Thanks!

88 posted on 01/30/2003 11:11:26 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You haven't demonstrated that the bacteria evolved. Only that it had taken on a resistance to penicillin after it's structure was artifically altered.

First off, how do you know the mutagen was artificial?

The inheritable properties of the bacterial colony changed in response to a change in the environment. That's an example of evolution. You don't seriously expect to be allowed to define something you don't believe in, do you?

Looks to me that your bacteria in the control dish (the ones that died) couldn't evolve without outside influence even though there was a definite need.

Evolution says there has to be variability in the population. The rate of spontaneous mutation was too low to create such variability. No variability, no evolution, just as nice Mr. Darwin proposed.

You have once again proven the Intelligent Creator theory.

This is why I won't waste my time debating creationists. You can't change a closed mind.

101 posted on 01/30/2003 11:18:34 AM PST by Right Wing Professor
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To: Blood of Tyrants
You haven't demonstrated that the bacteria evolved. Only that it had taken on a resistance to penicillin after it's structure was artifically altered.

The environment was altered. The most effective driving force for evolution is an alteration in the environment. It has been observed that environments can change without any 'intelligent' intervention. His experiment involved deliberately altering the environment to create a specific selection, but that does not prove that natural changes in an environment cannot accomplish the same result.

Evolution states that an organism will evolve as the "need" arises.

No, it does not. It states that alelle frequencies change over time. If no organism in a population has a mutation that allows them to survive in an otherwise lethal environment, they will all die out rather than 'evolve'.

You have once again proven the Intelligent Creator theory. Thanks!

No theory in science can be proven. Are you claiming that Intelligent Creator Theory is not scientific?
111 posted on 01/30/2003 11:23:26 AM PST by Dimensio
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