Biology Professor Refuses to Recommend Students Who Don't Believe in Evolution

Texas Tech ^ | January 29, 2003 | Michael Dini

[TankerKC]

I just wouldn't ask this guy for a personal reference.

[Right Wing Professor]

Well said.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Are you claiming that Intelligent Creator Theory is not scientific?

Not at all. Just that faith is a great part of ALL theories. The evolutionists just insist it isn't.

[Dataman]

You guys want the Federal Government to force someone to write a letter of recommendation for someone he doesn't want to recommend?

OK, use your bigger brain: This guy is an employee of the government. He is using it to discriminate on what he thinks is the basis of religion. And you are defending him?

[f.Christian]

Well keep driving // looking .. .. .. maybe the right gear will kick in !

[70times7]

What about wolves? Wolves can be pretty bad if enough bacteria turn into 'em at the same time!

I'm pretty sure the National Observer had a story where a kid took an antibiotic a suddenly a zoo is spewin' out his nose. Evolution can be dangerous.

[Right Wing Professor]

And I suppose that your mind is open to ideas other than evolution? Hah!

As much as it is to the idea that the earth is center of the Universe, or that 2+2=5.

RWP, the difference between you and me is that I don't pretend to know all the answers and that I admit that my theory requires faith.

I certainly don't claim to know all the answers. I don't pretend to know how life arose, for example. I think we have a different definition of faith.

[Dataman]

Yet more ignorance from an anti-evolutionist...

Yet more grace dripping from the lips of an evolutionist.

[Neever]

Unfortunately, liberal, leftist Seminaries are graduating plenty of ministers who believe in nothing. As a minister, and seminarian, I should know. Thank God I'm a conservative, God-fearing, America-loving, Constitution-backing Holy Roller!

The old saying is that "if you want to lose your faith in God, go to seminary." These are the same liberal, socialist, pro-communist slime who are descended, not from apes, but from the children of Cain.

[ChemistCat]

Then perhaps he should be required to write letters of recommendation for the stupid, for the psychopathic, for students who haven't even taken his course. Can't have any federal employee discriminating or exercising free speech rights....

(I'm also quite certain not much of his salary comes from the federal government now investigating him.)

[Right Wing Professor]

I bet you think jackass is funny too, eh?

[freedomcrusader]

Until then we'll just have to disagree on what the results of the study would be.

Belief in evolution has no impact on one's study of human anatomy, pathology, physiology, histology, biochemistry, etc.

Learning the Kreb's Cycle depends in no way on what you think about evolution.

Learning about the complement cascade requires no knowledge of, or belief in, evolution.

And so on...

[Doctor Stochastic]

Not to mention donkeys, zebras, and horses, which g3k also claims are the same species.

[ChemistCat]

Again, it wastes your time, and....

[f.Christian]

To: PatrickHenry

Hey Pat don't cut me off. I'd never threaten you with that. My younger brothers name is Pat. He is smarter and more successful than me. Which I refuse to hold against you, by the way.

I would like to know what you think the brilliance of our constitutional republic can be attributed to. (even though there is a malignant group of ungodly anarchists trying to tear it apart).

Possibly you will agree that the largest group of truly patriotic people currently in this country are represented by Evangelical and Fundamentalists Christians (not to say that all professing Christians are spot on).


1101 posted on 01/27/2003 9:04 PM PST by bondserv

[Dataman]

You're a liar. Doesn't that violate the 10 Commandments?

It would be nice to see some constructive defense of your position. Perhaps you would like to demonstrate to us all your great knowledge of the truth and produce a solid transitional fossil. No cheating now, only a fossil that is not disputed.

[Dark Knight]

The speciation was observed, not tested. Mice populations, bird populations, they did not do any hard science testing of the "speciation". The bird example was the most egregious. The birds actually did interbreed, the "biologists" observing just did not spend enough time observing before they declared it was an example of speciation.

DK
We the mice artificially inseminated to determine speciation?

[OrthodoxPresbyterian]

BTW, it would be a very interesting study to survey medical students/doctors on this topic, and then empirically examine how they perform.

Well, while still admitting (as I would never deny, being a libertarian) this particular Professor's constitutional right to be an oaf, I do think that a study of the medical efficacy of self-described "Creationist", "Intelligent Design", and "Evolutionist" medical doctors would very-likely discredit the Professor's irrational assertions.

I've no idea what definition of "medical efficacy" would be established, but assuming an objective and quantifiable standard I'd expect roughly equal medical efficacy across the board. Possibly higher for the religious M.D.s if the practice of religion "reduces stress" and "improves mental concentration" (wouldn't want to imply any yucky supernatural efficacy to prayer and meditation -- grin). And then again, possibly not. However, you'd have to figure out how to "control" for factors such as missionary doctors who choose to work in low-quality Third World medical environments.

[Doctor Stochastic]

So, what experiment would falsify your theory?

What data would cause you to modify the theory? Have you modified your theories based on acquisition of new data?

[Polycarp]

Doc? Polycarp? Have either of you ever needed to call in Richard Dawkins or Steven Jay Gould to consult on a medical case?

Though I've seen a few folks who appeared to be "Random Mutations" of the West Virginia type, no, I have not yet needed to consult Richard Dawkins or Steven Jay Gould.

On the contrary, things like the expression of penicillin resistance are the opposite of "evolution" but rather a "switching on" of genes already pre-existing in that organism or related organisms which have simply "swapped" DNA by known non-evolutionary mechanisms.