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U.S. troops hand over terrorist suspect to Bosnian authorities
AP ^ | Thu Jan 30, 7:00 AM ET | ALMIR ARNAUT

Posted on 01/30/2003 9:23:58 AM PST by Destro

U.S. troops hand over terrorist suspect to Bosnian authorities

Thu Jan 30, 7:00 AM ET

By ALMIR ARNAUT, Associated Press Writer

TUZLA, Bosnia-Herzegovina - NATO (news - web sites)-led troops on Thursday transferred a Bosnian Muslim, who had been held at their base since October as a terrorist suspect, to the local authorities in Bosnia.

Sabahudin Fijuljanin, 41, was detained by U.S. troops based in Tuzla first for allegedly spying on their base and possession of weapons, which is illegal in Bosnia. After more than a month, they said they also had information Fijuljanin had links to the al-Qaida terrorist network.

Fijuljanin never admitted he had those links, and the troops serving in the NATO-led peacekeeping force never presented any evidence and never laid charges against him.

His extended detention prompted human rights groups, including Amnesty International, to accuse the force of violating Fijuljanin's rights by keeping him in custody without charge.

Earlier this month, the Human Rights Chamber — Bosnia's top court in charge of human rights — ordered the Bosnian presidency to request Fijuljanin's handover to local authorities.

Early Thursday, Fijuljanin was seen on the back seat of a local police car driving out of Eagle Base in Tuzla. Followed by a number of other police vehicles, he was driven to a police station in nearby Srebrenik, some 30 kilometers (20 miles) north of Tuzla.

Maj. Shawn Mell, a spokesman for peacekeepers, said they had reached a point in their investigation "that can accommodate a transfer of Fijuljanin to the (Bosnian Muslim-Croat) federation Ministry of the Interior."

Fijuljanin's lawyer, Osman Mulahalilovic told The Associated Press the handover was "a triumph of the rule of law" and protection of human rights in Bosnia.

"I expect a hearing in the police station and an eventual charge for illegal possession of weapons or his immediate release," the lawyer said. Fijuljanin voluntarily handed over his anti-tank weapon a few days prior to his arrest.

Fijuljanin has been a member of a closed community near Srebrenik, which lives fairly isolated and practices a strict Islamic life style, unusual for the liberal Bosnian Muslim society.

Fijuljanin who hails from the Yugoslav region of Sandzak, has lived for years in Bosnia where he is married and has four children. His Bosnian citizenship is being investigated, since other passports, including his Yugoslav one, were found in his home during the investigation.

At present, about 12,000 international troops are serving in the peacekeeping mission in Bosnia. NATO deployed its troops here to keep the peace that ended the 1992-1995 Bosnian war.


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And just a few days ago this was the official policy: NATO Refuses to Hand Over Bosnia Terror Suspect

The men who make policy for our forces to follow in Bosnia do not serve the best interests of America or their troops.

We Americans are suckers for letting this Bosnian Muslim farce to continue.

1 posted on 01/30/2003 9:23:58 AM PST by Destro
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To: *balkans
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2 posted on 01/30/2003 9:24:30 AM PST by Destro
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To: Destro
Earlier this month, the Human Rights Chamber — Bosnia's top court in charge of human rights — ordered the Bosnian presidency to request Fijuljanin's handover to local authorities.

I don't get it. How's that supposed to protect his "human rights"?

3 posted on 01/30/2003 9:26:49 AM PST by inquest
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To: Destro
As usual, Destro, thanks for putting this info here for us, BTTT!
4 posted on 01/30/2003 9:29:46 AM PST by MadelineZapeezda (Madeline Halfbright iz a peezda)
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To: Destro
We turned over a terrorist to other terrorists.
5 posted on 01/30/2003 9:41:18 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
I wonder how our troops felt about turning over a terrorist who posed a risk to their lives to the people who sheltered him?
6 posted on 01/30/2003 10:00:12 AM PST by Destro
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To: Destro
From the little I've seen reported out of the area, all the centuries old beautiful Christian Churches have been destroyed by the Moslems.

The Bosnian Moslems have succeeded in cleansing the area of the Serbs.

The press will not report what is really going on in the area. The West wants to hide the fact that we were on the side of Moslem terrorists.
7 posted on 01/30/2003 10:21:13 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict
The Chuch destructions are in Albanian run Kosovo mostly.
8 posted on 01/30/2003 10:39:18 AM PST by Destro
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To: Destro
The Chuch destructions are in Albanian run Kosovo mostly.

No, Church destructions in Serb held areas of Croatia outnumber Orthodox churches destroyed in Kosovo - but Catholic Christians don't count in your bigoted parochialism, do they Destro.

Just an aside - wherever did you get the impression that an incompetent liar such as yourself could operate with impunity here on FR?

9 posted on 01/30/2003 11:04:57 AM PST by Hoplite
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To: Hoplite
Post it if you can prove it.

Was Croatia under NATO control at the time as it was in Kosovo?

10 posted on 01/30/2003 11:08:25 AM PST by Destro
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To: Destro
It's hilarious that your opponents can only resort to slander and insult when the chips are down.

They're probably trying to provoke you, at which time they will go running to the moderator to have you expelled.

It's ironic in a way how well this primitive tactic has worked to the benefit of the secessionists in the former Yugoslavia: first you start a fight; and when you get badly beaten, go bawling to the superpower for protection and intervention.

11 posted on 01/30/2003 11:39:27 AM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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To: Destro
Father Sava, November 17, 2002

Simply because Serb representatives would openly say in front of cameras that these two churches as well as other 110 were destroyed by Albanian terrorists after the war and in the presence of NATO and UN Mission.

That's 112.

Meanwhile, in Croatia, according to the Croatian Conference of Bishops, 65 Parish Churches and 51 Other Churches were "Totally destroyed".

That's 116, and excludes 88 Chapels, 66 Rectories and Auditoriums, and 7 Monasteries and Convents also listed as "Totally destroyed".

So in summation, you're as stated, and proven per your request, a liar.

For comparitive purposes, the MUSEUM of the SERBIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH published, in 1997
Spiritual Genocide
"A survey of destroyed, damaged and desecrated churches, monasteries and other church buildings during the war 1991–1995"

Which lists for both Croatia and Bosnia:
Destroyed: 212 churches (parish, filial and chapels)
Destroyed: 111 parish homes and other church buildings

I'd have thought that you'd know better than this by now, Destro.

But that assumes some intelligence on your part - my bad.

12 posted on 01/30/2003 12:00:25 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: FR_addict
Churches have always been at the center of Muslims' efforts to expell Serbs from their lands in Kosovo and Bosnia. And I mean always. From the very first day that Islam arrived with the Turkish aggressors in the 15th century to the present day. Muslim converts carried out by far the largest portion of this destruction, using the protection of their sponsors, as is the case now. Shame on the United States for supporting the genocidal anti-Serbian pogrom of the Balkan Islamists.

Muslims started the war back in March 1992 by launching a terrorist attack on a Serb wedding procession in front of the Serbian church in downtown Sarajevo, killing one member of the party and wounding several others. Interestingly, the fact that only the parishioners were violated, and not the actual physical church itself was actually hailed by the Muslims' supporters (the UN and false human rights groups)as a point in their favour. What else would you expect from atheist supporters of terrorists?

The barbaric assault in Sarajevo was immediately followed by Muslim and Croat attacks on not only federal (Yugoslav) institutions but any and all Serbian property, chief among which were attacks on Serbian churches and cemetaries. Among the first of many Serbian Churches to be destroyed in Bosnia was the main church in the city of Mostar, which was all part of the pogrom against Serbs in that city.

After that, all bets on Serbs not taking revenge against Muslim and Catholic houses of worship went to hell. The only people who expect Serbs to conduct a politically correct model of warfare which has never existed in human history are their enemies who delight in raising their "human rights" bar, as at Rambouillet, to a point which nobody on this planet can see.

It's necessary to recognize that Muslims have been destroying churches since the late 15th century when the Ottoman Turks (who were hardly devout in their version of Islam) conquered the Balkans. More out of spite than anything else, the Turks razed churches to the ground, and then used the foundation and much of the rubble to construct mosques which at first nobody, not even the Turks themselves, used for worship. This Turkish policy of constructing mosques on the ruins of Serbian churches was confirmed as recently as a few days ago in eastern Bosnia, when archaeological teams in Bijeljina discovered the original foundation of another 14th century Serbian church under the ruins of a mosque destroyed during the war in 1993.

The Serbian church was destroyed in 1530.

The same thing happened to thousands of other Serbian churches from the time of the original Islamic invasion right up to WWII and the present day. During the period under communism, the Croat dictator Josip Broz (known by the terrorist handle "Tito") not only prevented the reconstruction of Serbian churches, but actually allowed Muslims to build mosques on the ruins.

Many of the desecrated Serbian churches in throughout Yugoslavia, but especially Bosnia, Croatia, and Serbia's southern province of Kosovo, have been destroyed not once, but as many as three or four times. That is, of the small percentage of churches that have been reconstructed.

It's fascinating to watch the US and western Europe support the Balkan Muslims and the Catholic Croats carry out their campaign of destroying ancient edifices; frescoes and libraries, while actually claiming to uphold the values of western civilization. Sure, if your idea of western civilization is opening up a Burger King at a military base sitting on stolen Serbian land, then they are doing a terrific job.

13 posted on 01/30/2003 12:42:43 PM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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To: Hoplite; Ichabod Walrus
I never said Serbians did not destroy Catholic Churches or Mosques. As the Catholics and Muslims did likewise. So your a liar when you claim I said otherwise. BUT THE SERBS WERE DONE IN UNDER NATO'S WATCH!!! As an American citizen I am nit responsible for teh actions of others, when my nation's military funded by my tax dollars occupies an area to defend "all sides" for "humanitarian purposes" and then allows under 200 Churches to be destroyed by Muslims--thats MY PROBLEM! MY BURDEN! MOY COUNTRY'S SHAME!!
14 posted on 01/30/2003 12:44:28 PM PST by Destro
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To: Destro
This is what you said:

The Chuch destructions are in Albanian run Kosovo mostly.

For clarification, the dictionary definition of the word mostly is as follows:

1. For the greatest part; mainly.
2. Generally; usually.

Ergo, when comparing Church destruction in Kosovo and Croatia, the majority of destroyed churches are seen to be in Croatia.

You are a liar. QED.

You're also getting agitated - step away from the keyboard and collect your thoughts.

15 posted on 01/30/2003 1:06:10 PM PST by Hoplite
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To: Destro
Yes, Destro, I understood what you are trying to say.

I did notice you were making a distinction between churches destroyed in midst of war, such as the dozen churches bombed in Serbia during the 78-day NATO air campaign, and those churches destroyed in Kosovo during the 43-month occupation of Serbia by NATO and UN forces.

Please pay no attention to those who put their anti-Serb bigotry ahead of elementary reading comprehension.

You may be interested in the following statement from the Serbian Orthodox Church about destruction of Serbian churches in Croatia and Bosnia:

The destruction of Serbian religious art and its historical and national heritage has virtually never ceased since 1941. During the Second World War, in addition to more than a million Serbian lives, over 400 Serbian Orthodox churches were destroyed. In the Diocese of Gornji Karlovac alone, out of 203 churches and chapels, 116 were destroyed and 39 heavily damaged during World War II. In the Diocese of Slavonia, 54 churches were destroyed and 21 seriously damaged. On the territory of the Diocese of Banja Luka, 64 churches were casualties, 21 damaged. Three monasteries were heavily damaged and one completely destroyed. One chapel and 38 parish homes were destroyed, 12 parish homes damaged. In the same Diocese, 98 monasteries and parish libraries perished forever, as well as 94 archives. One half of all the Serbian churches destroyed during the Second World War were located on the territory of these three Dioceses. After the War, the Communist regime, supported by latent nationalist forces, made the restoration and protection of Serbian churches and monasteries impossible, in some cases even explicitly forbidding it. In the former Republic of Croatia, institutions for the protection of historical monuments: the Regional Institute of Osijek and the Republic?s Institute of Croatia, deliberately neglected the Serbian religious and historic heritage. An example is how the Regional Institute of Osijek behaved regarding the restoration and protection of Orahovica Monastery, one of the most significant monuments of the Serbian people in Old Slavonia (Podravina). The present Monastery church was built in 1592, and decorated with frescoes in 1594. During the Second World War, the Monastery treasury was looted and carried away to Zagreb (it was only in 1985 that the surviving portion of the treasury was given back to the Diocese of Slavonia); the Monastery residences were burnt down on 19 August, 1942, at the orders of Janez Grga and Karlo Mrazovic Gaspar, Commander and Party Commissar of the Third Operational Zone of the National Liberation Army and Partisan Units in Croatia, respectively. After the War, Croatia?s institutions for the protection of monuments (after many promises) did nothing to protect and restore this religious and cultural center of the Serbians in Croatia.

I don't know if you ever saw the Mel Gibson film, "The Patriot"? In one memorable scene, the British locked American rebels in a church before setting it ablaze. It was an interesting scene, rich with irony, because that was exactly what Croatian and Bosnia Muslim forces did to Serbs in WWII.

16 posted on 01/30/2003 1:31:36 PM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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To: Destro
Muslim boy standing in front of the ruins of a Serbian church in Mostar.

The church was destroyed in 1993. The photo was taken in 1999.


17 posted on 01/30/2003 1:46:45 PM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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To: Destro
Hmm, crazy nation. Can anyone fill me in on why the U.S. fired on and moved battleships against Bosnia?
18 posted on 01/30/2003 4:19:49 PM PST by Marines981
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To: Hoplite; FR_addict; Destro
Your attempts at distorting the truth are becoming more pathetic!

FR_addict said...

From the little I've seen reported out of the area, all the centuries old beautiful Christian Churches have been destroyed by the [Bosnian] Moslems.

Destro replied...

The Chuch destructions are in Albanian run Kosovo mostly.

The context for those remarks dealt with Bosnian Muslims and Albanians. You then proceed to drag Croatia, which had NOT been mentioned, into the equation in your feeble attempt to brand someone as a liar.

This is what you said:

The Chuch destructions are in Albanian run Kosovo mostly.

For clarification, the dictionary definition of the word mostly is as follows:

1. For the greatest part; mainly.
2. Generally; usually.

Ergo, when comparing Church destruction in Kosovo and Croatia, the majority of destroyed churches are seen to be in Croatia.

You are a liar. QED.

Truth is, your little straw man falls flat on his face!

19 posted on 01/30/2003 4:33:08 PM PST by F-117A
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To: F-117A
Post it if you can prove it.

Destro challenged me to back up my claim as to his veracity, and I answered his challenge.

Try to comprehend the issue before you dip your oar in, F-117A. You're circling your little wagon to defend ignorance.

20 posted on 01/30/2003 4:47:48 PM PST by Hoplite
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