[rdb3]

What then should Republicans do? Talk to and especially listen to blacks. Most blacks want, more than anything else, to know that they are being heard. We can ask blacks not to allow their memories of centuries of racism to cloud their views of America today, but they can ask the rest of us not to forget those centuries.

This is a deep point.

One of the things that absolutely infuriates me with certain posters here is that they totally refuse to admit and/or acknowledge the blood, sweat, and tears that were expended to force America to not only accept us as citizens, but as human beings. These are the ones who pooh-pooh that particular history of our nation (hence I ask those who say we are losing our freedoms to tell me when was America truly a "free" nation). It's as if what was done meant absolutely nothing.

I don't live in the past. In fact, I roll my eyes whenever I see a thread about Lincoln/Confederacy/WBTS. It's the 21^st century for crying out loud. But I'm not gonna lie. If I were at a roundtable discussing certain issues about race and our history with some here, I will rip the lungs out of the chests of those who disregard and disrespect my forebears' struggles with my bare hands.

I, as one young black man, do not wish for anything from anyone other than what is my birthright, and that is to be what I am: An American with ALL rights and privileges that comes with being an American. Those red stripes in Old Glory represent my forebears' blood, too. My citizenship was bought and paid for therein (I served this nation that I adore, too).

If our history is to be honored and learned from, don't disrespect our place in it.

It's as simple as that.

Oh, and RLK, this is especially for you.

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[farmfriend]

tell me when was America truly a "free" nation

It will be when the dream is real. Those of us who constantly fight for constitutionalism in property rights and 2nd amendment rights must never forget the fallen that fought for the constitutional right of equality.

[RLK]

Most blacks want, more than anything else, to know that they are being heard. We can ask blacks not to allow their memories of centuries of racism to cloud their views of America today, but they can ask the rest of us not to forget those centuries.

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Uh, I am not in the business of psychotherapy unless I'm getting paid for it. I'm not into hearing other people's emotional displays.

Most people's ancestors, Irish, Polish, Ukranian, Chinese, or whatever went through centurys of oppression somewhere along the line. There was a time when an Irishman was worth more dead than alive. Blacks are nothing special in that regard.

As far as blacks "memories of centuries of racism," very few black people I know were around centuries ago any more that very many Poles. One can't have memories of what happened before you existed except in dramatic arts expositions. I'm not into dramatic arts.

As far as this, " If I were at a roundtable discussing certain issues about race and our history with some here, I will rip the lungs out of the chests of those..." shit, you have an attitude. It could get you in a pile of trouble.

[farmfriend]

How can I be free if my brother is not? Am I not chained by his servatude? Not a question asked by those who long for the good ole days.

[RLK]

While I'mm on the subject and in a good mood, let me add to my previous comments. Whether you live or die doesn't mean a damned thing to me unless I know you a lot better than I do. And judging from out ongoing discussion here in recent months, you are not the kind of person I would want around me. Sob stories about ancestors, threats, mau-mauing or whatever won't get you anywhere at my house except a quick trip out the door. Anybody who has no class or can't cut it is not somebody I want around me. Don't go thinking you are special. It's equal opportunity regardless of race, creed, or anything else.

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[wimpycat]

The way I see it, it isn't about slavery per se, but about the 100 or so years of false freedom that came after slavery...and THAT is within the living memory of many black people.

[T Lady]

I could not agree with you more. Dennis Prager is practically the only Conservative to really get to the core of racial issues in America. No, you cannot discount the years of heartache and bloodshed our forefathers endured, but we here in the present should not use these as a billyclub to condemn and punish every White person that draws a breath. That's exactly what the Black Liberal Establishment does on a consistent basis, getting the majority of Blacks nowhere fast as a political force.

-Regards, T.