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To: Burkeman1; RJayneJ; rdb3; mhking; JohnHuang2; Nick Danger; AdamSelene235; Dog Gone; blam; ...
"It ain't about hatred of war- or opposing war in general as if they were pacifist quakers. It is about hating Bush. That is all it is about. In fact- that is about the only thing that one hears at these rallies- no arguments against the war- just invective against Bush."

They didn't protest when Cuban troops were committing war crimes against Black Africans in Angola.

They didn't protest when North Korea fired a missile over Japan.

They didn't protest when Clinton, Chirac, and Scroeder attacked Serbia (heck, they didn't even demand "inspectors" for the alleged "mass graves" and they didn't even ask for UN approval).

They didn't protest when Al Qaeda attacked the World Trade Centers and Pentagon.

They didn't protest when Anthrax was unleashed on us by our enemies.

But they DID protest our attacks on Al Qaeda in Afghanistan. They ARE protesting against our potential attack on Iraq, and they are ranting non-stop about how they hate President Bush.

Moreover, the organizers of the protestors (International ACT - ANSWER) are open, overt, admitted, unreconstructed Communists.

So no, the Left can't handle honest debate because it would reveal them to be the traitors that they are.

In fact at this point in time, they have little left to toss at us besides more of the same tired old agitprop that we've been hearing from the Left since 1961.

So there is simply NO WAY that Tom, Dan, or Peter are going to permit anyone on the Right to counter their daily spin. Their ideology is too bankrupt to allow such open combat.

Nor will the New York Times permit a Conservative to write "the other side" to balance each of their Editorial rants. Their spiel simply loses in any reasonable side-by-side comparison of Left versus Right ideas.

Not to overly dwell on the point, but the Left hasn't even had a new idea in more than a decade (good thing they call themselves "progressives", eh).

Thus, like the title to this thread, the Left does indeed howl; likewise, the Left refuses to argue or debate.

14 posted on 01/25/2003 6:57:24 PM PST by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
like the title to this thread, the Left does indeed howl; likewise, the Left refuses to argue or debate.

Except to spew lies. And it seems to be getting worse.

I guess there are some sober heads on the left who recognize this, and want to go off and start some think tanks to come up with some new policy ideas, but how damning a critique is that of academia... which the left owns? Hundreds of universities, all that faculty, and not one serious, new policy idea that has made it onto the stage.

They keep trying to recycle socialized medicine and present that as something new, but no one is buying it. Clinton took a run at it and it cost the Democratic Party a Congressional majority they'd held for 40 years. It was on the ballot in Oregon last November, and went down 85 to 15 per cent. There's nothing there for them but more defeat.

The only serious new policy proposal that one can identify with elements of the Democratic Party is "reparations." That's a total non-starter, more at a trick for sowing divisiveness, but there it is... their one new policy idea.

I think they are going to spend 40 years in the desert, just as the Republicans did. They are just used up and burned out.


15 posted on 01/25/2003 7:17:18 PM PST by Nick Danger (Heave la France)
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To: Southack
I vacillate between being furious with the left and simply bored with them.

They don't have any new ideas, and the old ones aren't too good, either. They certainly can't argue them very well anymore.

I get quite agitated at their tactics; take the New Jersey Senate illegality, for example. They'll cheat every time they think they can get away with it, and sometimes when they can't.

But debating things on the merits? That doesn't happen much anymore. It's simply name-calling and cheating.

It would be funny if it weren't successful a lot of the time.

16 posted on 01/25/2003 7:43:20 PM PST by Dog Gone
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