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To: Dog Gone
Look, I know what you have been trying to tell me. You have been saying none of those arrested did anything wrong, despite facts that have been presented and never refuted.

Apparently you seem to think that unless the property owner specifically objects to a person's criminal behavior, that is the same as consent. But it does not work that way. You know that, I know that. There is no need, rhyme or reason to be disingenuous about it.

20 posted on 01/25/2003 8:05:38 PM PST by Houmatt (The OTHER Axis of Evil: The ACLU, Planned Parenthood, the NEA, and the Rats.)
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To: Houmatt
I'm not being disingenuous. You are being purposefully obtuse.

Police may arrest people for illegal behavior. They may not arrest people on false charges, especially when they plan the false charges in advance.

If the people at the parking lot were engaged in illegal behavior at the time, they should have been arrested on those charges. Instead, they were arrested on a ridiculous charge, not backed up by the Texas Penal Code, and not supported by anyone who knows anything about the law.

This has been painstakingly shown to you numerous times, but you are unwilling to acknowldege this basic truth.

Your heroes are going to get fired on Tuesday, and then they're going to stand trial. You are living in denial, dude.

24 posted on 01/25/2003 8:25:56 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: Houmatt
Circular argument. The businesses were open to the general public, therefore the legal presumption is that the general public is welcome on their property unless they themselves express otherwise; and they did not thus express themselves. Your city cops screwed this up big time and you should be as mad at them as anybody, because this did not need to happen. All the neighborhood nuisance activities you list (excessive noise, littering, vandalism, etc.) could be legitimately busted. But no. Your cops busted virtually the whole lotful of people for violating falsified "no trespassing" notices. Yeehaw. These cowboys aren't exactly the straightest shooting guns on the belt.
31 posted on 01/26/2003 1:01:39 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Houmatt
Look, I know what you have been trying to tell me. You have been saying none of those arrested did anything wrong, despite facts that have been presented and never refuted.

I don't know what your problem is, but I read those threads too and Dog Gone was very clear on his position, as were the many people who tried to explain to you where you were offbase on this ridiculous accusation.

You would be well advised to drop it, and apologize.

The point he made was not that "none of those arrested did anything wrong", as you keep FALSELY trying to put into his mouth, his point was that it was wildly improper for the officers to do a mass arrest in such a way that they couldn't help but sweep even some innocent people up in their arrest net (and worse, not be able to properly sort out which was which when it came time to trial).

If you're unable to read simple English after it has been explained to you at least a dozen times, or if you're unable to honestly describe an opponent's position, you need to go off and work on your problem and then come back when you can.

You have been repeatedly off base on this. I'm not saying you need to agree with his position (or that of other people who disagree with you), I'm saying that at a minimum you need to be able to UNDERSTAND what they're saying before you have any hope of making a relevant response.

47 posted on 01/26/2003 11:41:23 AM PST by Dan Day
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