[hauerf]

You posted this to demonstrate that this "Mark Shields" (or is it "Mark Shill") guy is a loser, right? Okay, I'm convinced.

[RJCogburn]

I watched the program.

I think Brooks made a better case than GWB has to this point.

[ecomcon]

Mark Shields proves once again that alas, he remains an idiot. It is ironic that he should speak of the French contrarian mindset in a somewhat bemused way, because that is exactly his mindset as well. If we go and remove Hussein, we will be damned as pointless warmongers. If we do not, we will be damned as callous and indifferent to the suffering of the Iraqi people, condoning nazi style brutality, and caring not to further the cause of "democracy" because at heart, we like fascist brutality.

The left has no moral compass. They cannot decide to do anything that is difficult, because all sides are equal. They then oppose whatever thing their most hated enemy proposes.

So, damn them for their equivocation. Damn them for their immorality. They (MarkShields, the French, et. al.), are always wrong on these matters.

"War solved Hitler".

[copycat]

: I think that's why. Because people don't have a sense of who Saddam is. They don't know who Michel Aflaq is - the guy who really is the guru for Saddam. No major publications have done reports on what Saddam thinks in the past year, I've looked. And the administration has to break through that. So far they have not.

This is very true, and FReepers could help here. Why aren't the speeches of Saddam being publicized? We could do that. I don't hear very many people making the case that Saddam tortures his political enemies...I have read the power drill is his favorite.

If we want to publish the atrocities of the Saddam Regime, we could sarts right here

"I just want somebody to say to those people and I wanted to go down there and say here's a regime that has professional rape teams in their military where they rape women and send the videotapes to the fathers. Here's a regime that imprisons mothers and babies in the next cell and forces them to watch their babies starve to death. "

[my_pointy_head_is_sharp]

I heard the show on NPR radio.

"I was even with a military group a couple weeks ago. Trust the president. Don't know what it's about."

Absolutely right. I heard some soldiers saying they had to protect the U.S. from Iraq. Huh? Last time I checked, Iraq hadn't declared war on the U.S. And, none of the 9/11 hijackers were from Iraq. Saddam may be a menace to his own people, but he's certainly no threat to us. Unless you think we should go after him because he's another Hitler.

[visualops]

bttt

[RaceBannon]

MARK SHIELDS: The tide of democracy which spread through Latin America did not spread with an M-1 rifle. I mean, it spread because of the value of democracy.

The crowds and I was down there on the mall - the crowds were wonderful people. They were nurses and teachers and clergy people and blue-collar workers and middle American families who were very much against the war. This is the biggest antiwar movement I've ever seen before a war. Don't forget, it took us three years in Vietnam before the anti-war movement even crystallized in this country. It isn't a question that they're in favor of Saddam Hussein. They're the spear that George Bush has not made the case.

Not with an M-1? Was it a Springfield? Cuz it was sure fought against with AK-47's!

What crowds on the mall? The anti-war losers? Notice how they look at faces and ignore the messages these faces preach??

[Defender2]

Hmmmm.....Now let me see.....Violating the Gulf War Cease fire agreements....hhmmm....Violating every resolution passed in the U.N. Security Council......Hmmmm.... Not wanting to show compliance with the current and previous resolutions.....hhhhhmmmmm....sounds to me like these people need an anvil dropped on their heads in order for them to stand up and disarm Hussein when he should have done so at the end of the Gulf War. Indeed the U.N. has become useless in this instance!!!!

[paul51]

we see ourselves paralyzed by North Korea

Did I miss something or is this guy talking from the wrong end

[FairOpinion]

MOST COMPELLING ARGUMENTS NOT YET MADE FOR WAR WITH IRAQ


If I could draw worth a darn, I would draw a cartoon showing a mushroom cloud over Manhattan and use a caption:

"Democrats say MOST COMPELLING ARGUMENTS NOT YET MADE FOR WAR WITH IRAQ"