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Muslim Woman Sues To Get Florida ID Card
WKMG TV ^

Posted on 01/24/2003 11:57:56 AM PST by McGruff

A Muslim woman in Winter Park, Fla., who refused to remove her veil for a driver's license photograph last year is suing the state of Florida again.

Sultaana Freeman, 35, filed a civil lawsuit Wednesday after the state's Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles refused to issue her a state identification card.

Freeman applied for a state ID card in October.

Freeman was originally allowed to wear her veil, which only reveals her eyes, to obtain a Florida driver's license. However, the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles discovered her veiled face in a post-Sept. 11 check of its driver's licenses database.

When officials requested that Freeman take a driver's license photo without the veil, she refused. She said her religious beliefs dictated that she should not show her face to strangers or men outside her family. She also said that her constitutional rights were violated.

"I don't show my face to strangers or unrelated males," Freeman said in an earlier Local 6 News report.

She sued when her driver's license was revoked in 2001.

Freeman's attorney, Howard Marks, has said that the government's stand on this matter is unconstitutional.

Local 6 News reported that Florida law states that license applicants be issued "a color photographic or digital imaged driver's license bearing a full-face photograph.

State officials said that agency rules prevent them from issuing cards with photographs of covered faces.

Freeman, who is an American-born converted Muslim, will go to trial in April for another lawsuit which seeks the reinstatement of her driver's license with a veil.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story



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To: McGruff
This is America.
We have a set of laws.
When living in America one must follow American laws.
After the attacks on America (bombing of our embassies, the first attack on the World Trade Center, the September 11, 2001 attacks on America, possibly the OKC bombing, etc. as well as the attempted attacks on America); it is hard for me to comprehend why someone would not want to follow our laws for the security of our country. It's that simple. As President George Bush once said, "Either you're for us or...."
21 posted on 01/24/2003 12:42:27 PM PST by Cindy
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To: Rome2000
My religion doesn't allow me to pay income taxes.

Hee, hee, my religion requires me to carry a Glock.

22 posted on 01/24/2003 12:49:05 PM PST by ibbryn
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To: McGruff
Next will be the case of the African tribesman who believes that his soul will be stolen if photographed for a driver's license.

-PJ

23 posted on 01/24/2003 12:50:55 PM PST by Political Junkie Too
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To: Cindy
the Department of Highway Safety and Motor Vehicles discovered her veiled face in a post-Sept. 11 check of its driver's licenses database.

This is one of the few positive developments I've seen in homeland defense since Sept. 11th.

24 posted on 01/24/2003 12:53:19 PM PST by McGruff (Take a bite out of Saddam.)
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To: McGruff
I have little sympathy for her and wish she'd go away. However, I wonder what freepers would think about a thumbprint as an ID? Or what Muslim women would think?

A thumbprint (or two) provides a reliable ID, but one that requires more time to check than a photo. It would be kinda tough to examine examine a thumbprint on a license by flashlight on a night-time stop.

25 posted on 01/24/2003 12:55:29 PM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: McGruff
no show face equals no id card...lol
26 posted on 01/24/2003 12:59:32 PM PST by Bill Davis FR
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To: VOA
Bump. You are so right about Shaq. What a FOP. As for the Islamist convert towel-head who wants her drivers license without a face...it seems to me that a trip to Saudia Arabia is in order. There, she will learn that she should not be driving at all...
27 posted on 01/24/2003 1:08:18 PM PST by Paul Ross (From the State Looking Forward to Global Warming!)
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To: McGruff
re post No. 24 --- A few links of interest:


AAMVA.org - AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF MOTOR VEHICLE ADMINISTRATORS: "IDENTIFICATION SECURITY"

EPIC.org - Topic: "NATIONAL ID CARDS"

28 posted on 01/24/2003 1:10:10 PM PST by Cindy
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To: McGruff
Please someone (anyone) tell me this is a wind-up! Someone lives in a free state and is allowed to take legal action because she is not prepared to follow the laws of the country in which she lives? What is she doing in the US if she doesn't support its values?
29 posted on 01/24/2003 1:10:12 PM PST by orbital
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To: McGruff

There's always the bus......and I hope she finds herself in front of one soon.
30 posted on 01/24/2003 1:11:07 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: McGruff
She said her religious beliefs dictated that she should not show her face to strangers or men outside her family

Show me where it is unconstitutional – I believe State Law has the initiative here. She should have call in the ACLU they love Muslims.

Go to Iraq Sultaana, we don't wear masks for legal pictures in this country.

31 posted on 01/24/2003 2:26:07 PM PST by yoe
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To: dagar
They should send her happy @$$ packing ... to the PRC; aka. the Peoples Republic of California

Don't do us any favors! We got enough losers to deal with in this state. She could be the straw that breaks the camel's back. Why doesn't she just ride a camel, she won't need a license for that!

32 posted on 01/24/2003 2:32:37 PM PST by RogerWilko
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To: McGruff
"I don't show my face to strangers or unrelated males," Freeman said in an earlier Local 6 News report.

"Yo Babe, you are in the wrong f---ing country! Get the f--- oudda' here and go to
Saudia Arabia! Ain't youse' ever heard of doing wot da' Romans do when you are in Rome?
Sheesh!"

Sorry, when Islamic idiocy intrudes on my beautiful country, I find myself
channeling Andrew Dice Clay in order to deal with these sort of medieval-mind-mode morons.
33 posted on 01/24/2003 3:05:10 PM PST by VOA
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To: ko_kyi
"I don't show my face to strangers or unrelated males," Freeman said in an earlier Local 6 News report.

Issuing a public statement? Where's my flogging stick?


I was watching a program about the Ku Klux Klan last night on the History channel. At one point they mentioned that at some time a law was passed making it illegal to appear in public with a mask over the face. I wonder.
35 posted on 01/24/2003 4:45:02 PM PST by RipSawyer
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To: McGruff
"I don't show my face to strangers or unrelated males," Freeman said in an earlier Local 6 News report. Nor do terrorists or bank robbers.
36 posted on 01/24/2003 5:36:04 PM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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To: Rome2000
LOL! An Orthodox Teapartier, eh?
37 posted on 01/24/2003 5:39:09 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: VRWCmember
This is fine. Allow her to wear the veil. Of course, every time there's a bank robbery the police could round her up for the lineup. ;)
38 posted on 01/24/2003 5:40:57 PM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: VOA
Islam is a very peaceful religion.

Just because a Muslim woman can get away with obscuring her identity from local and federal authorities, doesn't mean that she will ever abuse this privilege.

A privilege which should be reserved exclusively for Muslim women, mind you....because Islam is a very peaceful religion...and others are not.

It's really very simple. If you want your wife to have this privilege, just convert to Islam.

Very simple....and very peaceful.



39 posted on 01/24/2003 5:45:19 PM PST by Ichabod Walrus
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To: McGruff
another perspective
40 posted on 01/24/2003 6:02:17 PM PST by dogbrain (...maybe "shield" isn't quite the correct word for them.....)
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