Who Sold What After the Embargo? (Blood Pressure Enhancer)

Tageszeitung ^ | 1/21/03 | unknown

[Life of Brian]

Iraq’s declaration of its weapons programs contains explosive news for Germany, a Berlin paper has reported. The dossier is said to detail covert arms deals between German defense firms and Iraq.

Just as the heated debates within the German government over the role of German troops and equipment in a possible war against Iraq seem to be cooling down, another potential bombshell threatens to reignite the fires.

On Tuesday, the Berlin-based left-wing paper, Tageszeitung reported that aspects of the 12,000-page Iraqi report on Iraq's weapons programs, submitted to the U.N last week, could prove highly embarrassing for Germany.

The newspaper - believed to be the first to have access to the top-secret dossier - has written that the Iraqi declaration contains the names of 80 German firms, research laboratories and people, who are said to have helped Iraq develop its weapons program.

[Robert_Paulson2]

Movie title?
Ronin....

[PhiKapMom]

Now to see if a French paper does the same. I think the countries most opposed to this removal of Saddam all have something to hid. Looks like the German Government has a lot to hide.

I keep thinking back to the experiments they did in WWII and now they are involved in WMD -- really scarey -- maybe we should be investigation Germany as well!

[hchutch]

If I said what I thought about this, I'd be given a time-out.

[PhiKapMom]

Good riddance to bad trash is right! Time to remove all American forces and equipment down to the last lightbulb!

[PhiKapMom]

I would be serving the time out with you if I said what I was thinking!

[Life of Brian]

That explains why the Germans are acting the way they are!

It does but in balance it must be remembered that the USA built up Iraqs weapons stockpiles during the 80's and early 90's before the gulf war. That is how we know Iraq has anthrax, vx gas and other biological and chemical agents now. Supposedly most of these were destroyed after the gulf war. It appears the sanctions and embargos have been circumvented by several nations hoping to cash in economically and the discovery of their activities is like finding the smoking gun in their own backyard. Somebody got some 'splanin to do.

[StriperSniper]

Suppose there was treachery

[PhiKapMom]

I know we were on the side of Iraq in the Iraq/Iran war. What bothers me is anything that was done after the Gulf War. That is unforgiveable IMHO!

[Weimdog]

From another thread:

Titled "French Connection", Michael Mönninger's article says it's no wonder that France is against a war with Iraq — French business interests are worried about losing their lucrative deals with Baghdad, especially the oil giant TotalFinalElf. Following Iraq's invasion of Kuwait in 1991, France's exports to Iraq collapsed but now there're spiralling upwards — worth a record 660 billion euros last year, compared with 398 billion in 2000

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/828370/posts

[Life of Brian]

What bothers me is anything that was done after the Gulf War. That is unforgiveable IMHO!

I agree with you there, assuming this collusion is true which I feel it is.

[PhiKapMom]

Thanks much -- I figured the French were in it up to their neck!

[Robert_Paulson2]

yup... the "why" behind this little menagerie is they sold the iraqis EVERYTHING they needed for nukes "boys" and "girls."

And Iraq has MOST likely already built and secreted them away to their partners in terror. Al quaida, hamas, hezbollah the egyptian 'brotherhood' types and who the hell knows who else.

GERMANY has been plotting against us. Not for their own gain, but our destruction. They hate jews and white guys who speak english... and they are still pissed about WW2.

Some of them that is.

France is just stupid... drunk... and perverted, but also hates jews and the evil white english speakers of the world.

Russia Germany France China North Korea Iraq Iran Syria... does this come as a surprise to any of us? HELL NO!

And they have armed thousands upon thousands of terrorists against us on one level or another, from a governmental level. This is MORE irritating to me than the evil house of saud and the hijack, murder bombers of 9-11...

ARGGGGGGGhhhh!!!!
Somebody (apopleptic fits) get me my pills!

[deport]

Here is the article from the German paper ran through a web based translation, German to English. So it will be in error I'm sure in some parts......

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German aid for Baghdad report at UN security council name of more than 80 German firms that supported Saddam Hussein in armament businesses contains. USA seek contains further references to dirty businesses GENEVA taz of the armament reports of the Iraqi government at the UN security council the names of more than 80 German businesses, several private and public research laboratories as well as of numerous individuals out of Germany. These should since about 1975 entire units, component, reason substances and technical Know-how for the programs Saddam Husseins to the development more atomically, chemical and biological weapons of mass destruction as well as of rockets and complete conventional weapons delivered have. That follows out of the procurement relevant chapters of the Iraqi report, that exist the taz in copy. In some felling the cooperation lasted after representation of the report in the conventional area until at least to the year 2001.

The bush Administration strives presently after information out of direct environment of vice president thickly Cheney for additional information, with which it hopes belay to can one nominally until cooperation of Germany continuous armament technical today with the Iraq. At the same time it concerns informed is among other things the cooperation of a German microelectronics business with the Iraq, over that the Federal Government since 1999.

Already at that time the Federal Government was referred of German Rüstungskontrollexperten warning on that that this could find officially possibly use in the military area as a purely civilly designated technology. A member nominally well known long-time high-ranking the taz of the Bagdader regime signaled the bush Administration its readiness to deliver information on the cooperation with Germany for the promise of protective treatment in the counter-move after a slump of the regime. According to the reports the bush Administration wants to use corresponding communications in order to cause a welfare behavior of Germany in the UN security council.

The number of the business itemized German in the report is larger than the sum of the firms out of all other countries. At second place, the USA with approximately two dozen stands business. In addition the aid of US government side comes. Among other things the energy ministry in the 80er-Jahren delivered relevant nichtnukleare components for Baghdads nuclear weapons program.

In the report, also numerous references are found to cases, in which German national authorities tolerated and government place up to the federal ministry of economics above all in the phase of end of the 70er-Jahre to the second gulf war of 1991 the illegal armament cooperation with Iraq and actively promoted in part.

Is unclear whether the information closes out of Baghdad completely all 15 members of the UN security council. The copies existing the taz come had from the only complete original report, over the specialist US American to arrival in New York two weeks ago for 24 hours the exclusive decree. They would have at least time and opportunity had to remove information, before it copies for that four other permanent members of the security council of produced. "ANDREAS CLOSE

Focus PAGE 3 taz no. 6932 of the 17.12.2002, page 1, 67 lines (TAZ reports), ANDREAS CLOSE

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Article from German Paper in German

[DeweyCA]

You can bet that the US intelligence service has known about this for several years, ie. during Clinton's watch. And probably nothing by the US was done about it during that time.

[Amelia]

Life of Brian, thanks! I've been looking for this!

Hey girls, lookee here!

[VOA]

Bump...

[Don'tMessWithTexas]

I can begin to see the emergence of new strategic alliances. The UK is and always will be out ally. We have the strong support of Spain and Italy. Meanwhile, we hit the masterstroke by securing the support of former Soviet Bloc countries such as the Czech Republic, Poland, Hungary. Russia is squeaking but will not oppose us. We will therefore freeze out France and Germany, in effect making them strategically irrelevant to the US. This will leave Germany and France scrambling to salvage a EU without a relevant military counterpart. At the same time the UN will be consigned to the dustbin where it belongs.

[justshe]

I followed the link....and read the article. And what an incredible BOMBSHELL! Or.....as hchutch said, "Oh, [bleep]!"

[vbmoneyspender]

I don't believe that is true that we built up Iraq's weapons stockpiles during the 80's and 90's. Iraq was getting their weapons from the Soviet Union and France. Remember all those tanks we blew up, those were Soviet tanks. Likewise with Hussein's air force, it was all Soviet and French made. If you have a link that says differently, I would like to see it because I do not think we supplied them with weapons. We gave them tactical assistance during the war with Iran, but I believe that was about it.

[justshe]

THANK YOU for the ping! We knew it.....we just KNEW IT!